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hagan714 01-27-2017 04:02 AM

Re: We took our eye off the division
 
DC Greg Williams shown the door.

jeanpierre 01-27-2017 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 734795)

Twenty years can go by telling yourself that...sometimes you just gotta step up and smack that a$$...

spkb25 01-27-2017 07:30 AM

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we don't draft well, we don't stock pile picks, that is our problem. Couple that with consistent FA misses and you have a mediocre 7-9 team that is like groundhog day

K Major 01-27-2017 08:06 AM

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2017 ... Boom or bust.

Executives, FO, GM, coaches, players, trainers, facilities/maintenance personnel ... just about every one is on notice this year. The sense of urgency is now.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 734826)
2017 ... Boom or bust.

Executives, FO, GM, coaches, players, trainers, facilities/maintenance personnel ... just about every one is on notice this year. The sense of urgency is now.

On notice from whom?

jeanpierre 01-27-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 734827)
On notice from whom?

Both Loomis and Payton have acknowledged same on local, New Orleans television...

jnormand 01-27-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 734827)
On notice from whom?

Cmon Guido. You can't really believe that this team, staff and FO don't know that there's pressure building to win. Hell man even Drew won't go on record saying that he'll take an extension right now.

Idk if they're officially "on notice", but I'd be surprised to see the coaching staff remain another season if 2017 is anything but playoffs. And I'm sure they share the same sentiment. Hence the removal of a bunch of coaching assistants.

jeanpierre 01-27-2017 11:23 AM

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Yeah, if Loomis/Payton aren't feeling it, then it's time to take the ole dogs for a last walk...

Rugby Saint II 01-27-2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 734827)
On notice from whom?

I agree with you that Loomis, Payton and the front office have been walking on water with Benson since they brought the Lombardi home.
Still, there has to be some kind of influence that an unhappy fan base will make known.

No matter how far up in the Penthouse the owners still have the pulse of the fans. Yes. We still sell out and merchandising is good. But we are coming off of our fourth unsuccessful season in a row. We are faithful but even an uneducated and loyal group begin to question leadership at some point.

It looks like there is a plan in place that we will stick with to turn around the franchise and I am hopeful that we have several good building blocks in place and with the new blood in house I feel hopeful about the new coaches coming in from the Senior bowl auditions or from one of the two Super bowl teams.

The last few years have seen shake ups at various area looking for an improvement. Recently the hires have proven to be good resources. Whether it's Ireland with the defensive input during the draft, Glenn coaching the secondary or a fresh out look from the collegiate scouts we are putting a better unit on the field at the start of training camp.

We may need to address the inordinate amount of injuries and look at the strength and conditioning regimen and coaching. Or a favorite theory of mine.....that Payton's workout that slimmed him down during his suspension is not necessarily good for contact sports.jmho

Beastmode 01-27-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 734824)
we don't draft well, we don't stock pile picks, that is our problem. Couple that with consistent FA misses and you have a mediocre 7-9 team that is like groundhog day

Way too many misses. And using players in ways that limit their strengths which has always been a problem with Payton. Pats never do it. They use those strengths like when they were winning with 2nd and 3rd string QB's.


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