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We took our eye off the division
Starting in 2010, Atlanta sought to steal our thunder and outdo us and since then they have had two NFC title games while we have had none. They clearly formulated their offense to be like ours but with more explosive playmakers. And when our oline started breaking down, we didn't focus on getting it rebuilt like we should have, grooming backups until they were needed to start. No, we were too focused on Seattle, wanting a defense like them. Atlanta did what they sought out to do and if they win the SB, they won the war.
Why did we sacrifice our offense at the expense of trying to change a decent defense when we did? As long as we kept up in the division and held our advantage the playoff wins would continue and sb eventually would happen. The steelers or pats have to win, they just have to. This is bad. |
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Our division was built to beat us. We got lackadaisical and lost our edge. This is the end result.
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The draft immediately following the Superbowl foretold so much...
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Don't forget bad drafting over those years, only the last 2 have been decent. I have to agree about not addressing the O-line with draft picks, I've screamed for a couple years that needed to be addressed. Payton let the good ole boys stay entirely to long on the D side.
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Here's the thing - I don't think we've responded well to adversity - the Super Bowl hangover, Bountygate, Galette bombing, anything really.
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I don't think Galette should have left but we got lucky given his injuries afterward. And if our defense didn't do what it did in 2014, he would not have been cut and we would have been dealing with his injuries.
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A long series of horrible moves that looked smart on paper with some serious gambles thrown in. Almost none of it worked out. There were a few salutes but those were quicker than a private passing a general by accident.
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I think Payton, Loomis, and the scouting department are the best group at drafting in the history of the league. They should go consult the Falcons. Also let them get some tips from our strength and conditioning coaches.
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DC Greg Williams shown the door.
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we don't draft well, we don't stock pile picks, that is our problem. Couple that with consistent FA misses and you have a mediocre 7-9 team that is like groundhog day
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2017 ... Boom or bust.
Executives, FO, GM, coaches, players, trainers, facilities/maintenance personnel ... just about every one is on notice this year. The sense of urgency is now. |
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Idk if they're officially "on notice", but I'd be surprised to see the coaching staff remain another season if 2017 is anything but playoffs. And I'm sure they share the same sentiment. Hence the removal of a bunch of coaching assistants. |
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Yeah, if Loomis/Payton aren't feeling it, then it's time to take the ole dogs for a last walk...
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Still, there has to be some kind of influence that an unhappy fan base will make known. No matter how far up in the Penthouse the owners still have the pulse of the fans. Yes. We still sell out and merchandising is good. But we are coming off of our fourth unsuccessful season in a row. We are faithful but even an uneducated and loyal group begin to question leadership at some point. It looks like there is a plan in place that we will stick with to turn around the franchise and I am hopeful that we have several good building blocks in place and with the new blood in house I feel hopeful about the new coaches coming in from the Senior bowl auditions or from one of the two Super bowl teams. The last few years have seen shake ups at various area looking for an improvement. Recently the hires have proven to be good resources. Whether it's Ireland with the defensive input during the draft, Glenn coaching the secondary or a fresh out look from the collegiate scouts we are putting a better unit on the field at the start of training camp. We may need to address the inordinate amount of injuries and look at the strength and conditioning regimen and coaching. Or a favorite theory of mine.....that Payton's workout that slimmed him down during his suspension is not necessarily good for contact sports.jmho |
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It happens all the time. |
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The Colts themselves said some associate of SP contacted them, that is not a lie. The Colts wouldn't make that **** up. That is true!
Another 7-9 or less campaign and SP is as good as gone. Firing your D coord the year before and then firing a bunch of assistance is the last gasp of the dying. Have no idea how we will be next year. We have some decent pieces in place and it could turn around real quick and be like a 12-4 push for SB season or another dud. Even Drew is sick of it! |
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Now, if we were talking three straight years of 4-12 with an anemic offense then I could see it because it would be affecting the gate. And, yes, Drew is sick of it. Doesn't mean he isn't going to finish his career as a Saint as he has said he plans. But, it is all moot because the Saints are positioned to make a big move this next season with a few pieces. |
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'They will win the war'?
Have you served in the military? Because I don't think you know what war is by a comment like that. Dude relax. The problem with your theory is that we have to build some type of D because since winning the SB our office could score 40 or anyone but our D gave up 41. That isn't how you spell success or 'winning a war'. You have to have some type of balance to win SBs. |
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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – A high-ranking member of the Indianapolis Colts’ front office was quick to dismiss a Sunday report the team pursued New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton. “It’s totally fictitious,’’ Pete Ward, the team’s chief operating office said. “This is the age of false information. It’s unbelievable.’’ CBSSports.com’s Jason La Canfora posted a story late Sunday afternoon detailing how the Colts, with Ward serving as their intermediary, recently had discussions with the Saints about arranging a trade for Payton. Negotiations stalled, he reported, when draft-pick compensation couldn’t be reached. Ward contacted La Canfora and summarily denied the report. “I told him it was BS. And you can quote me on that,’’ Ward said, admitting an individual associated with Payton reached out to the Colts a couple of weeks ago. “I got a call from someone who said he was an associate of Sean Payton. He asked if we were interested in talking and I said ‘No.’ That was it.’’ So, it was a brief phone call? “That it was,’’ Ward said. “I hate when something like this comes up because it’s not true and no matter how untrue it is, there are people out there who are going to wonder.’’ Saturday, Irsay fired general manager Ryan Grigson and cleared any uncertainty regarding the immediate status of coach Chuck Pagano. “He’s our coach for 2017,’’ Irsay said. __________________________________________________ A person 'who said he was an associate of Sean Payton' could have been the ******* La Canfora himself trying to create a story out of nothing. Don't believe everything you read, especially when it has a La Canfora or Rapoport byline. ;) |
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How quickly it was forgotten..........it's a done deal! Payton to coach the Rams!!!!
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We never, in any way shape or form, took our eyes off of the division.
F'ing crazy talk from people trolling for attention or amateurs who don't know what the **** they're talking about. Has this site really become that dumb? |
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Thanks for proving me right. I never said the Colts were pursuing SP. I said the Colts said an associate of SP reached out and they wouldn't lie about that. So basically you just wrote exactly what I wrote. |
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What is your hate based upon? You are always so negative. Get a life, dude. |
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He said an associate of SP called them but that they were not interested in him. I supplied facts. Facts aren't negative or positive, they just are. Well now you're speculating and you're welcome to do that, but maybe you should keep from degrading other board members when they do the same. You have a habit, when someone offers an opinion that differs from yours, of telling people they couldn't possibly know the things they're saying because they're not on the in. Now you're doing the same thing, again, and trying to pretend that your speculations are facts. Have a nice day AG |
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I have shared factual accounts that pointed out that La Canfora's speculations were outright lies. Believe your fairly tails if you wish if they make you feel better about your negative viewpoints. :dunce: |
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Again, I stated that the Colts said that an associate of SP contacted them and they said they were not interested. These are facts. I said they would not lie about that. I based it on what the Colts said and that they would not make that up. You either refuse to accept this or you're thick headed. I will just keep quoting my original post for you. Quote:
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Now do you get it? You choose to believe La Canfora, a master of bullcrap, over the chief operating officer of the Colts? Only if you have an agenda with no regard for facts. |
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