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billyt81 01-27-2017 04:54 PM

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Here is what I expect. The Bucs will draft LB Kendall Beckwith from LSU in the 3rd round, putting him next to Kwon Alexander and LeVontae David, both pro bowlers. Alexander was the LSU LB two years ago who ran a 4.3 40. They'll have their version of the Dome Patrol. Atlanta will draft Duke Riley in the 4th round and he'll round out their D as he'll rejoin ex-LSU LB Deion Jones, the rookie LB from LSU and Jesuit and New Orleans native who ran a 4.3 40 as well. The Cardinals will draft Tredavious White, DB
from LSU joining him with Patrick Peterson and the Honey Badger
surpassing the Legion of Boom as the best secondary in the league. Finally Fournette will take the lowly Jets to the playoffs next year. The Saints will once again pass on all LSU players and I dont get it. Of course I'm an LSU homer but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. I just watched Jarvis Landry, pro bowl WR catching balls from Tanneyhill beat Beckham in the hands competition and we took Stanley Jean Baptiste(not in the NFL) over him. I could list countless examples of this, but I'm done.

K Major 01-27-2017 05:06 PM

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Billyt81,
Tell us how you really feel about the LSU players as it relates to the upcoming draft ;).

billyt81 01-27-2017 05:37 PM

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OK. Fournette is out of reach so Id take Tredavious White in the 2nd, Kendall Beckwith in the 3rd, NT Christian LaCotoure in the 4th, Duke Riley in the 5th and NT Davon Godchaux in the 6th. Package that with Christian McCaffrey at #11 in the first rd and Ill be satisfied. If Tennessees DE is available at 11, which I doubt, we cant pass him up but like I said hell be gone.

K Major 01-28-2017 09:50 AM

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I know I'm jumping ahead (position coaches hadn't been hired yet & draft is months away) but I'd love to see what Mike Nolan could do with a draft pick like Reuben Foster.

Boy.

ChrisXVI 01-28-2017 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 734909)
I know I'm jumping ahead (position coaches hadn't been hired yet & draft is months away) but I'd love to see what Mike Nolan could do with a draft pick like Reuben Foster.

Boy.

You made me look up who his middle linebackers have been at his previous coaching stops and he's had some great ones...

2002-2004 Ravens (Defensive Coordinator)- Ray Lewis
2007-2008 49ers (Head Coach)- Patrick Willis

rezburna 01-28-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 734454)

This would be my 2nd round pick.

rezburna 01-28-2017 05:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 734884)
OK. Fournette is out of reach so Id take Tredavious White in the 2nd, Kendall Beckwith in the 3rd, NT Christian LaCotoure in the 4th, Duke Riley in the 5th and NT Davon Godchaux in the 6th. Package that with Christian McCaffrey at #11 in the first rd and Ill be satisfied. If Tennessees DE is available at 11, which I doubt, we cant pass him up but like I said hell be gone.

McCaffrey at 11? Eh...

vpheughan 01-28-2017 06:27 PM

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I can hear the screams now if the #1 pick is "skill position"!

AsylumGuido 01-28-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 734943)
I can hear the screams now if the #1 pick is "skill position"!

Enter the draft contest and see how you can do.

See my signature for link.

ChrisXVI 01-28-2017 07:56 PM

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Rugby Saint II 01-29-2017 01:09 PM

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There are some really good prospects in this years draft that have grown on me. We still need BPA at a position of need at LB'er, DE and guard. I probably won't know anything about the player that we actually draft.:p

jeanpierre 01-29-2017 04:06 PM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2017 08:51 AM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2017 08:53 AM

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Who coaches the Senior Bowl?

National Football League coaching staffs coach the two Senior Bowl teams each year. The staffs are determined in cooperation with the NFL. The teams with the lowest winning percentage that season usually get the first opportunity to coach in the game, but only if a majority of their staff - and head coach - are intact.


Source: Frequently Asked Questions : The Game : Reese's Senior Bowl

jeanpierre 02-02-2017 04:25 AM

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2017 NFL Draft Prospects, by round, Saints would find as a good value, fit with likely favorites...

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio St.; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) OT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LG Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Jourdan Louis, Michigan; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 185 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) RT Adam Bisnowaty, Pitt; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 307 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St.; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Tyus Bowser, Houston; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Alex Anzalone, Florida; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)
No. 109 (R4, 11) RB Marlon Mack, South Florida; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 150 (R5, 12) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) QB Davis Webb, Cal; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB De’Angelo Henderson, Coastal Carolina; Height: 5’ 7”, Weight: 209 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) FS Xavier Woods, Louisiana Tech; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 203 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Hardy Nickerson, Illinois/Cal; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) TE Cole Hikutini, Louisiville; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Des Lawrence, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 188 lbs.

K Major 02-02-2017 08:19 AM

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Bama Height?

jeanpierre 02-05-2017 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 735459)
Bama Height?

Who?

jeanpierre 02-05-2017 06:52 PM

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2017 NFL Draft Prospects, by round, Saints would find as a good value, fit with my favorites...

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) OT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Jalen Tabor, Florida; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 201 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Cordrea Tankersly, Clemson; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 200 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) RT Zach Banner, USC; Height: 6' 8", Weight: 360 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St.; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Anthony Walker, Northwestern; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 235 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Alex Anzalone, Florida; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)
No. 109 (R4, 11) RB Marlon Mack, South Florida; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 150 (R5, 12) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB De’Angelo Henderson, Coastal Carolina; Height: 5’ 7”, Weight: 209 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Des Lawrence, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 188 lbs.

jeanpierre 02-07-2017 12:30 AM

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This is why I shake my head when we trade two draft picks for one draft pick - we must value draft picks more!!!


dizzle88 02-07-2017 02:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736093)
This is why I shake my head when we trade two draft picks for one draft pick - we must value draft picks more!!!

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/828679248839798785

Unfortunately, instead of the "Lewis or Edelman" types, we stick with people like Cadet...

Instead of Malcolm Butler, we have Ken Crawley who intercepted every Brees pass in training camp and then couldn't even turn and look for the ball the entire regular season.

AsylumGuido 02-07-2017 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736093)
This is why I shake my head when we trade two draft picks for one draft pick - we must value draft picks more!!!

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/828679248839798785

That kind of goes AGAINST what you are saying. Only three of those six were drafted at all. It actually demonstrates what New England can do with less draft picks. Honestly, they haven't really had a great recent history with high draft picks. The do, however, knock it out of the park in free agency.

ChrisXVI 02-07-2017 08:28 AM

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A couple more weeks to bask in the euphoric Failclown collapse and then the Combine will be here and we can get back to focusing on fixing our sub-.500 team.

ChrisXVI 02-07-2017 08:48 AM

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jeanpierre 02-07-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736110)


Don't know about you guys, but I'm not really too impressed with "...the next Ray Lewis..."

The only two Florida guys I'm feeling have red flags, CB Jalen Tabor (character, straight-line speed) and LB Alex (Thor) Anzalone (injury-prone, quickness)...

jeanpierre 02-07-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 736106)
That kind of goes AGAINST what you are saying. Only three of those six were drafted at all. It actually demonstrates what New England can do with less draft picks. Honestly, they haven't really had a great recent history with high draft picks. The do, however, knock it out of the park in free agency.

Well, not against what I'm saying as the emphasis I wanted noted was on the importance of those 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th round picks...

Last year we traded a 3 and a 4 for Bell in round 2 despite having a roadblock for him an expensive FA investment in Byrd...

I wouldn't have made that move for Bell; I would've waited to see if he would have been there in Round 3 and then taken him...

And we wouldn't have had to use two more picks to get a round 4 to take Onyemata...

Those lesser picks usually are guys that have the goods, but don't haven't developed to be able to contribute at a min. NFL level, yet...

ChrisXVI 02-07-2017 08:34 PM

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Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.

jeanpierre 02-07-2017 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736196)
Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.

I've been trying to contact some friends in that area to find out if that's a red herring to make him drop or legit criticism...

jeanpierre 02-07-2017 11:31 PM

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2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects, by round, with favorites high-lighted (Updated 2017/02/07)

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) QB Nathan Peterman, Pitt; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Alex Anzalone, Florida; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)
No. 109 (R4, 11) RB Marlon Mack, South Florida; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) RT Zach Banner, USC; Height: 6' 8", Weight: 360 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) FB James Connor, Pitt; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 256 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Ezra Robinson, Tennessee St/Michigan St; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.

ChrisXVI 02-08-2017 10:05 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-08-2017 10:09 AM

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I like tacos.

jeanpierre 02-08-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736238)

The tremendous need we have at DE opposite Cam with size and speed is blaring and why I originally had Malik McDowell mocked as a perfect complement for the Saints...

It would be a tremendous mistake to take Taco at 11, though he's a quality player and could do us some good, 11 just seems way too high...

Know Hagan has often beat the drum that we need to move back in the draft, pick up a second and/or third round pick and then take a DE there and in that situations, it makes sense...

But as deep as this draft is at DE (as it was last year), I think we could stay disciplined and select the BPA at 11 where the elite players are 12-14 deep and get an impact player of that caliber...

And wait and still take players in the next two rounds who can complement our front four...

In my current mock I'd have us taking:

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins

No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Ezra Robinson, Tennessee St/Michigan St; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 185 lbs.

The youth, speed I'd at infuse at linebacker, plus the size/speed with Kpassagnon at DE would more than a great impact on the front seven without having to put all our bets on one singular player...

And this would be after Free Agency where I'd secure at least one elite guard, a veteran defensive end and re-sign several of our productive free agents...

And keep these two thoughts in mind, we may be moving some players via trade and we may already have our defensive end on the roster in Onyemata...

Sarik 02-08-2017 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736196)
Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.

from every report i've seen, it seems like thats the case for him. Huge Motivational issues...takes plays off. We all have seen what happens when a player doesn't "love" football...Justin Gilbert.

jeanpierre 02-08-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 736259)
from every report i've seen, it seems like thats the case for him. Huge Motivational issues...takes plays off. We all have seen what happens when a player doesn't "love" football...Justin Gilbert.

Well, if I'm a Saints personnel man, I want to do some in-depth background work and have a couple of interviews, maybe break bread and find out what's going on with him...

Really like Andrus Peat, but we let Marcus Peters go by us to the Chiefs because we didn't really find out, understand his issues...

Ireland's first season with us, so the scouts still remaining bufu'ed that one...

dizzle88 02-08-2017 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736265)
Well, if I'm a Saints personnel man, I want to do some in-depth background work and have a couple of interviews, maybe break bread and find out what's going on with him...

Really like Andrus Peat, but we let Marcus Peters go by us to the Chiefs because we didn't really find out, understand his issues...

We've missed multiple players that fell right into our laps - Marcus Peters, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones to name a few.

hagan714 02-08-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736238)

Taco Charlton Top temptation at DE on my list. but at 11? still not wrapping my mind around this sudden climb up boards.

Danno 02-08-2017 07:44 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 736273)
We've missed multiple players that fell right into our laps - Marcus Peters, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones to name a few.

No we didn't.

We took Michael Thomas before Deion Jones. Not a mistake.
We took Andrus Peat before Marcus Peters (drug addict team cancer). Not a mistake.
Kwon was passed up by everyone until the 4th round. Not a mistake

ChrisXVI 02-12-2017 10:36 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games
 
If we fail to find a long-term answer at DE this offseason, keep an eye on NC State's Bradley Chubb this fall. With Ryan Nielsen being our new D-Line coach there's a great connection.

hagan714 02-12-2017 10:41 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games
 
Like Anderson was my disappointment in staying in school for 2016

Chub is my #1 disappointment for returning. smart kid grrrrr

Bradley Chubb SDE N.C. State 6031 276 4.86 #9 Jr
plays behind the line and sets the edge.

next

Josey Jewell ILB/OLB Iowa 6006 235 4.74 #43 rJr
A true three-down prospect. does everything at ILB well.

*Marquis Haynes DE/OLB Mississippi 6021 222 4.67 #10 Jr
heat-seeking missile off the edge who is a natural pass-rusher. functional strength. extremely undersized situational rusher right now has to get better in run defense and bulk up

CheramieIII 02-12-2017 01:08 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games
 
Here's my 2 cents:

Cheramie’s Draft
1a. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio Stae
1b. Derek Barnett, DE, Tennesee

2a. Adoree Jackson, CB/KR, USC
2b. DeMarcus Walker, DE/DT, Florida State

3a. Davis Webb, QB, California
3b. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

4a. Pat Elflein, C/G, Ohio State
4b. Kendell Beckwith, LB, LSU

6a. Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy
6b. Javarius Leamon, OT, South Carolina State

7a. Caleb Peterson, G, North Carolina
7b. Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida

jeanpierre 02-13-2017 12:13 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736238)
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Todd McShay is either smoking weed or needs a kick to the nards if we'd take Charlton over Foster...


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