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ChrisXVI

02-13-2017 11:28 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Probably no big deal, but worth noting...

jeanpierre

02-13-2017 11:30 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Hmm...maybe he falls to us now?!?

ChrisXVI

02-13-2017 12:16 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736630)

Hmm...maybe he falls to us now?!?

https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/831179559613714432

Expected to miss four months. That would include rookie minicamp and OTA's. No big deal in the long run, but a tiny bit concerning.

ChrisXVI

02-15-2017 11:12 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Mel Kiper Mock Draft Version 2.0

Saints select...

Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford

"By their recent standards, the Saints took a small step forward on defense last season, but they really only went from "worst" to "almost the worst." They simply have to get better on that side of the ball if they want to be more than a .500-range team, even with a great offense. Thomas can be a terror as a pass-rusher, but he's a pretty complete player and simply makes you better."

K Major

02-15-2017 11:30 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Could Solomon Thomas be this year's Sheldon Rankins?

I think he could.

Beastmode

02-15-2017 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736793)

Could Solomon Thomas be this year's Sheldon Rankins?

I think he could.

We won't get a shot at him at 11.

jeanpierre

02-15-2017 07:45 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

At lot is still going to happen between now and the draft...

QB Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech is now being talked about in the first round...

jeanpierre

02-18-2017 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736793)

Could Solomon Thomas be this year's Sheldon Rankins?

I think he could.

Here's the thing with this year's draft - Will Cleveland, San Francisco and Chicago stay disciplined and take the BPA or will owner's and luxury suite/season ticket politics push these teams to reach for QBs???

I suspect that if one takes a QB, you'll see an early run because you have two other playoff teams downstream Texans & Broncos who are feeling that their QBs are limiting their respective team's success...

Not to mention you've got two potential playoff teams in the Jets and Bills who are directly limited by their QB play...

Then you've got 'Zona who'd really like to get some youth at the position and not deal with the imminent retirement and fragility of Carson Palmer any longer...

So there's teams there who'll pull the trigger and maybe don't want to draft overrated QBs in Watson and Kizer...

Seer1

02-18-2017 10:53 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 737050)

A lot of those teams'll be drafting after us. How will those effect the available players in the positions we really need at #11?

hagan714

02-18-2017 11:36 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736793)

Could Solomon Thomas be this year's Sheldon Rankins?

I think he could.

solid pass rusher
so so against the run
broken leg?

nah

hagan714

02-18-2017 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 737050)

I would not be surprised to see all the QB still on the board at 11

which would be a good thing. Browns probably would use that second first on the #1 rated QB on their board. So if any team below them, say the cards? then a quick flip of picks that involve a few places would be an option. I still love our spot. Any way I do the mock we are always sitting good.

jeanpierre

02-20-2017 10:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 737058)

A lot of those teams'll be drafting after us. How will those effect the available players in the positions we really need at #11?

It's more the latter teams would not be reaching for some of those quarterbacks which may make those in front of us reach and allow some impact defenders to fall to us...

jeanpierre

02-20-2017 10:36 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects, by round, with favorites high-lighted (Updated 2017/02/20)

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) SS Obi Melifonwu, LSU; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) RT Chad Wheeler, USC; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Collin Bevins, NW Missouri St; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) FB James Connor, Pitt; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)

No. 185 (R6, 10) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) P Austin Rehkow, Idaho; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) OL Ben Braden, Michigan; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Ezra Robinson, Tennessee St/Michigan St; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.

jeanpierre

02-21-2017 10:25 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects, by round, with favorites highlighted (Updated 2017/02/20)

***Corrected***

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OG Dan Feeney, Indiana; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, E. Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) SS Obi Melifonwu, LSU; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) RT Chad Wheeler, USC; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) FS Lorenzo Jerome, St. Francis (PA); Height 5’ 10”, Weight 202 lbs.[/COLOR]
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. [COLOR="red"](+)
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) DE Collin Bevins, NW Missouri St; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) OL Ben Braden, Michigan; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Jeremy Cutrer, Middle Tennessee St; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 180 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.

saintsfan1976

02-22-2017 03:22 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.

jeanpierre

02-22-2017 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 737273)

I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.

Charlton at No. 11? He's gonna have to do something special at the combine...

Seer1

02-22-2017 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 737290)

Charlton at No. 11? He's gonna have to do something special at the combine...

Shoulda done something special much earlier than that....

Rugby Saint II

02-22-2017 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 737273)

I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.

Taco is going to be good with some coaching but he's still too raw to take at #11. There will be better options available I believe.

K Major

02-22-2017 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 737299)

Taco is going to be good with some coaching but he's still too raw to take at #11. There will be better options available I believe.

Anytime I see the word raw, SJB comes to mind. I recall Mayock saying "raw" quite a few times in his pre draft evaluations on him. At pick #11, we need to draft a kid (see Rankins) ready to start & make an impact from week 1.

I'm with you on Taco ... pass.

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 07:40 AM

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Alright guys, let's take a break from crying about the Cooks trade and talk about something more productive... We have an extra 1st round pick! Who are some late 1st round players you like that probably wouldn't have still been on the board when our 2nd round pick rolled around?

Maybe Charles Harris? TJ Watt? Adoree Jackson?

jeanpierre

03-11-2017 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 740077)

Forrest Lamp, TJ Watt, Tre' White

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 740106)

Forrest Lamp, TJ Watt, Tre' White

Tre'davious White- that's a great one! The first round will be so loaded with CB's I could easily see him being there at 32.

halloween 65

03-11-2017 10:28 AM

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I'm still beating the drum for Peppers.

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 02:50 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Washington CB Sidney Jones was carted off the field at his Pro Day with a "significant lower leg injury."

K Major

03-11-2017 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 740172)

Washington CB Sidney Jones was carted off the field at his Pro Day with a "significant lower leg injury."

Wow.

CheramieIII

03-11-2017 03:18 PM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Bleacher Report had him going to us at #32. This one got hurt before he came to us. This will really set this kid back until next season at which point someone will have to take a significant risk to sign him

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 03:26 PM

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CB's just aren't durable nowadays. Even the best CB in the draft Marshon Lattimore got hurt working out at the combine. Really liked Sidney Jones though so it's awful news.

lee909

03-11-2017 03:40 PM

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Maybe Jones fall to us in the 3rd

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 06:01 PM

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They're reporting it's a torn Achilles for Sidney Jones. Just awful.

lee909

03-11-2017 06:04 PM

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Yeah not good for the kid

We could get lucky if he slips to the 3rd with that though.
Id take him in the 3rd though i think somebody like th Browns with a ton of picks would nab him in the 2nd

lee909

03-11-2017 06:28 PM

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CSN Mock post FA

11. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - O.J. HOWARD, TE, ALABAMA

The Saints haven't adequately replaced Jimmy Graham -- until now. The 6-foot-6 Howard dominated the Senor Bowl, only adding to his already formidable hype. Speed receiver John Ross becomes an option if New Orleans deals Brandin Cooks and New Orleans could certainly add corners considering the receivers in the NFC South.

32. New Orleans Saints (Via NE) - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
32. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (VIA NE) - MARLON HUMPHREY, CB, ALABAMA

With six divisional games against the likes of Julio Jones, Mike Evans and Kelvin Benjamin, stocking up at corner is a smart strategy. That the 2016 Saints ranked among the bottom teams in passing yards allowed provides further ammunition for taking a pass defender. That the Saints didn't acquire Malcolm Butler in the Brandin Cooks trade means they should probably use New England's ex-pick to get that kind of help.

rezburna

03-11-2017 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 740237)

I don't really trust Alabama cornerbacks. Humphrey has the size and speed I like. He's also very aggressive, but he gives up the big play because of it

rezburna

03-11-2017 06:37 PM

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I'll tell you who I'm starting to like at #11 if Reuben Foster is gone, Sidney Jones. Sidney Jones is one hell of a corner. 6'0. 4.4 speed. Press, man corner. He's exactly what we're looking for.

lee909

03-11-2017 06:37 PM

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thats what iv just been reading about him
Some scouts saying he doesnt run with the receiver well and could get abused by the long ball

lee909

03-11-2017 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 740242)

I'll tell you who I'm starting to like at #11 if Reuben Foster is gone, Sidney Jones. Sidney Jones is one hell of a corner. 6'0. 4.4 speed. Press, man corner. He's exactly what we're looking for.

He tore his achilles in todays pro day

ChrisXVI

03-11-2017 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 740242)

I'll tell you who I'm starting to like at #11 if Reuben Foster is gone, Sidney Jones. Sidney Jones is one hell of a corner. 6'0. 4.4 speed. Press, man corner. He's exactly what we're looking for.

I have some really bad news for you Rez.

rezburna

03-11-2017 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 740243)

thats what iv just been reading about him
Some scouts saying he doesnt run with the receiver well and could get abused by the long ball

The National Championship Game showed me he was just like pretty much every other Alabama corner. The same way Bellichick can make a DB, Nick Saban does the same thing.

rezburna

03-11-2017 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 740244)

He tore his achilles in todays pro day

For real? WTF!? Why would he even do a Pro Day? Damn it man....if he's there in the 3rd or 4th round I'd take him. He's going to be a star.

K Major

03-11-2017 06:46 PM

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I don't like this mock .. at all.

Where is Reuben Foster? Solomon Thomas, Takk McKinley OR Barnett aka Mr. Consistency?? There is no way I'd take a TE at #11 when we are in desperation mode for a DE/pass rusher.

lee909

03-11-2017 06:50 PM

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I agree
Just posting it

Id like Howard though.
Would be a monster with Brees

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