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Rugby Saint II 01-30-2017 12:21 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
I'm a Bama fan but the more I read about Howard who I watched play a lot of games this year the more reservations I have about spending a first round draft pick on anything other than LB, DE or guard.

I feel a sense of urgency to go BPA at a position of need......and those are almost critical needs to me that have to be addressed if we want to win.

blackangold 01-30-2017 12:44 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
Same top two.

If Barnett or Foster are available at #11 I would be ecstatic.

halloween 65 01-30-2017 01:02 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
Peppers!!

K Major 01-30-2017 01:59 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 735118)
Peppers!!

Halloween, you want him at #11? Most would argue that Malik Hooker (Ohio State) is a better Pro prospect than JP. Is he a "in the box safety" or LB? Don't we already have one (Kenny V)? I'd rather have a center field guy (Hooker)/ball hawk.

Thoughts?

hagan714 01-30-2017 03:25 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 735008)
Is he a Marcus Peters clone? I'd be extremely surprised if the Saints FO go corner back at #11.

I look at a safe pick as a player that will come in and do what he is billed to do at high level.

Sidney Jones CB Washington 5116 181 4.49 #26 Jr
Best press corner back in college football with his length, exceptional footwork, quickness, long speed, athleticism technical skills and competitiveness. Alpha dog issues. Isn’t afraid to take chances to make big plays. So double moves and complicated route concepts can fool him due to his aggressive play. Lack of bulk really hurts him as a run defender as he doesn’t have the play strength to take on blockers or bring down ball carriers without help

Alpha dog, fluid, athleticism, instincts and ball skills.

Want to roll the dice on a young Alpha pup with the same traits and probably the highest ceiling in the draft?

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Size, length aggressive, catch up speed and makes plays on the ball to becone a #1CB at the next level. Overall the highest ceiling of any corner back in this class. If he gets better technique wise. Relies too much on his physical gifts.

Closet clone to the mano-a-mano Peters on the field and probably a bit more of a head ache off the field?

Teez Tabor CB Florida 6002 192 4.50 #30 Jr
Talent is not the issue. His mouth is a huge issue. Knocking the school coaches and players to the media more than once? who does he think he is to mouth off like this? Deon? gambler? toast? Teez. Teez is a true mano-a-mano, down-the-field, ball-skills type guy.

Of these three I would roll the dice and ignore that history of Bama CBs and go with up side + talent
Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo

I would make sure my resume is updated when his rookie contract is up, just in case. :) I think at worst he will be a solid #2

Round two might have the answer it is looking good with the Senior Bowl performance of
Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU 5111 191 4.48 Jr

As he goes up others drop down
Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 195 4.48 #25 Sr
Quincy Wilson CB/FS Florida 6012 211 4.54 #6 Jr
Gareon Conley CB OSU 6002 195 4.50 #8 rJr
Marquez White CB FSU 5111 181 4.49 #27 Sr

This entire draft should have something to offer in every round at CB/S

halloween 65 01-30-2017 04:35 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 735129)
Halloween, you want him at #11? Most would argue that Malik Hooker (Ohio State) is a better Pro prospect than JP. Is he a "in the box safety" or LB? Don't we already have one (Kenny V)? I'd rather have a center field guy (Hooker)/ball hawk.

Thoughts?

Vaccarro is overrated in my opionion. Peppers could step as a rookie and make Vaccarro expendable( trade bait). With nothing lost at the SS position and gaining another draft pick in a deep selection of D players to chose from ,yes, he would definately be my #11 pick. The only question would be how much an overrrated Vaccarro is worth and what cb do we draft thats not made of glass. People thought trading Graham wasn't going to happen either when I was screaming for it. The #11 pick can be a very valuable pick if played right. I also rather have another NT that can help crush the middle than a DE.

hagan714 01-30-2017 04:42 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
Malik Hooker FS OSU 6020 206 4.54 #24 rSo
excellent in coverage, but tackling needs work. more than a few mental break downs. But he is a rSo so how bad do you come down on him for those break downs? This were interviews will make or break him.

I still am watching this fall downs the boards and waiting for the medical check on
Eddie Jackson FS/SS Alabama 6000 194 4.53 #4 Sr
solid deep free safety. massively improved after a move to safety from corner back. natural as a coverage free safety who can cover in man and play the deep center field.fractured leg Cover 3 - more of a single-high safety if this really what DA wants?

Late round steal?
John Johnson FS/CB Boston College 6002 202 4.54 SR
Not much to say about him except he has a nice skill set to work with and is generating some buzz.

burningmetal 01-30-2017 04:45 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
Hang on, let me go ask AsylumGuido if it's ok for me to have an opinion on this. I'll get back to you.

AsylumGuido 01-30-2017 04:54 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 735162)
Hang on, let me go ask AsylumGuido if it's ok for me to have an opinion on this. I'll get back to you.

PMing or emailing?

burningmetal 01-30-2017 04:57 PM

Re: Mike D's 6-20, who do you like at 11?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 735167)
PMing or emailing?

Oh good, there you are. Is it ok if I give a completely inconsequential guess on who we might take at 11?


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