YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!

saintswhodi · 03-18-2005, 05:39 PM

We couldn't do this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Vikings get Cowart for 7th-round draft pick
Associated Press

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- The New York Jets traded middle linebacker Sam Cowart to the Minnesota Vikings on Friday for a seventh-round pick in this year's draft.

Cowart saw his playing time diminish in 2004 after a knee injury knocked him out for an extended period and rookie Jonathan Vilma emerged as a standout player. After the season, Cowart asked for a trade when it became clear he wouldn't have much of a role with the Jets.

The move to Minnesota reunites him with defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, who coached him in Buffalo and New York, along with former Bills teammates Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams, Keith Newman and Ken Irvin.

"Adding Sam Cowart gives us a strong veteran presence and leadership in the middle of our defense," said Vikings coach Mike Tice said. "Sam has played at an elite level throughout his career and we are expecting him to add that type of performance to our defense."

Cowart, entering his eighth season in the NFL, was a second-round pick of Buffalo in 1998 and emerged as a star, notching over 100 tackles in five of his first seven NFL seasons. But he hasn't been the same since an Achilles' tendon injury in 2001.

He played outside linebacker for two years with the Jets before moving back to the middle last season, where he is most comfortable. Cowart was playing well until he sprained his knee in Week 2 against San Diego and missed the next six games. He was hardly used when he got healthy.

The Vikings have been busy upgrading their defense in the offseason, signing linebacker Napoleon Harris, safety Darren Sharper, cornerback Fred Smoot and Williams in the last three weeks. Including Cowart, the five players bring a combined 339 NFL starts, 57 interceptions, 32 sacks and have played in three Pro Bowls.

A freaking 7th round pick!!!!!! But we got Lance Whoopteedoo yesterday. CRAP!!!!!

papz · 03-18-2005, 05:44 PM

Hey remember... Fisher might be the next big time contributor here! He was a second round pick years ago with a degenerative knee problem... there\'s nothing wrong with that! :casstet:

I made a thread about Cowart like a month ago sw, and if I\'m not correct... not many people in these forums are enamored with this guy. I would have loved to have made this trade. When healthy, this guy is a tackling MACHINE.

[Edited on 18/3/2005 by papz]

baronm · 03-18-2005, 05:46 PM

so why not pony up a 6th or 7th and get fuija from the cheifs? THere are some decent linbackers to be had..but ya gotta pony up the pick.

saintswhodi · 03-18-2005, 05:52 PM

Forgive me if I am wrong, but a 6th or 7th round pick is the biggest crap shoot I can think of. We can get players like Cowart or Fujita for a pick that low and we are twiddling out thumbs?????? Now THIS is crap.

WhoDat · 03-18-2005, 06:57 PM

This is New Orleans Saints Free Agency. They\'re not doing anything different than they\'ve done for the past three or four years. Sign players at positions of minimal to moderate need, often time who don\'t explicitly fill that need, and pass on bigger needs. Fisher is this year\'s Orlando Ruff. Welcome to New Orleans, Whodi.

saintz08 · 03-18-2005, 08:31 PM

Forgive me if I am wrong, but a 6th or 7th round pick is the biggest crap shoot I can think of.

With Hasbeen the number 1 can be questionable too . Just do not give the man , 2 no. 1 picks or he really gets confused .

Tobias-Reiper · 03-19-2005, 12:07 AM

..some notable 6th and 7th round picks:
Shannon Sharpe
Brian Mitchell
Brice Paup
Jeff Blake
Mike Chmurra
Frank Whycheck
Jeff Zgonina
Brock Marion
Terrell Davis
Chad Coda
Gus Frerotte
Marco Rivera
Jay Riemersma
Keith McKenszie
Al Harris
Chris Fuamatu-Ma\'afala
Matt Hasselbeck
Pat Tillman
Donald Driver
Marc Bulger
MIchael Hawtorne
Tom Brady
Tim Rattay
JT O\'Sullivan

Jay Novacek
Eric Martin
Greg Lloyd
Ed Simmons
Bo Jackson
Gene Atkins
Stan Humphries
Michael Haynes
Rodney Peete

...why I compiled this list... I don\'t know...

LKelley67 · 03-19-2005, 01:12 AM

interesting list. ya go back at least to 1987 bo jackson (who was #1 overall in \'86), maybe before then with a few names. 36 listed there. let\'s just say 20 years X 32 teams (for simplicity) X 2 rounds (6th-7th)= 1280 picks. 2.8% nameable is a crapshoot.

i\'m pathetic enough i look up N.O. 6th and 7ths...

bockwoldt
kareem kelly
talman gardner
john gilmore
derrius moore
o\'sullivan
mitch white
ennis davis
bulger
michael hawthorne
sherrod gideon
kevin houser
chris bordano
andy mccoullough
ron warner
nicky savoie
keno hills
toderick malone
henry lusk
lee deramus
travis davis
lance lundeberg

phew, to \'94 is tiring enough

saintswhodi · 03-19-2005, 11:57 AM

Man, I liked Henry Luck as a TE when he was here.

LKelley67 · 03-21-2005, 08:33 AM

i\'m waiting for them to sign Lady Luck.

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hey, the cowart deal is even sweeter...

The Vikings\' trade last week for N.Y. Jets linebacker Sam Cowart, acquired for a 2005 seventh-round draft pick, carried one caveat: If Cowart suffers a training camp injury or does not make the team, the Jets must \"return\" the pick by sending the Vikings their 2006 seventh-round pick.

03-18-2005, 05:44 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Hey remember... Fisher might be the next big time contributor here! He was a second round pick years ago with a degenerative knee problem... there\'s nothing wrong with that! :casstet: I made a thread about Cowart like a month ago sw, and if I\'m not correct... not many people in these forums are enamored with this guy. I would have loved to have made this trade. When healthy, this guy is a tackling MACHINE. [Edited on 18/3/2005 by papz]

03-18-2005, 05:46 PM	#3
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! so why not pony up a 6th or 7th and get fuija from the cheifs? THere are some decent linbackers to be had..but ya gotta pony up the pick.
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954

03-18-2005, 05:52 PM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Forgive me if I am wrong, but a 6th or 7th round pick is the biggest crap shoot I can think of. We can get players like Cowart or Fujita for a pick that low and we are twiddling out thumbs?????? Now THIS is crap.

03-18-2005, 06:57 PM	#5
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! This is New Orleans Saints Free Agency. They\'re not doing anything different than they\'ve done for the past three or four years. Sign players at positions of minimal to moderate need, often time who don\'t explicitly fill that need, and pass on bigger needs. Fisher is this year\'s Orlando Ruff. Welcome to New Orleans, Whodi.
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03-18-2005, 08:31 PM	#6
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Forgive me if I am wrong, but a 6th or 7th round pick is the biggest crap shoot I can think of. With Hasbeen the number 1 can be questionable too . Just do not give the man , 2 no. 1 picks or he really gets confused .
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03-18-2005, 05:39 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! We couldn't do this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Vikings get Cowart for 7th-round draft pick Associated Press HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- The New York Jets traded middle linebacker Sam Cowart to the Minnesota Vikings on Friday for a seventh-round pick in this year's draft. Cowart saw his playing time diminish in 2004 after a knee injury knocked him out for an extended period and rookie Jonathan Vilma emerged as a standout player. After the season, Cowart asked for a trade when it became clear he wouldn't have much of a role with the Jets. The move to Minnesota reunites him with defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, who coached him in Buffalo and New York, along with former Bills teammates Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams, Keith Newman and Ken Irvin. "Adding Sam Cowart gives us a strong veteran presence and leadership in the middle of our defense," said Vikings coach Mike Tice said. "Sam has played at an elite level throughout his career and we are expecting him to add that type of performance to our defense." Cowart, entering his eighth season in the NFL, was a second-round pick of Buffalo in 1998 and emerged as a star, notching over 100 tackles in five of his first seven NFL seasons. But he hasn't been the same since an Achilles' tendon injury in 2001. He played outside linebacker for two years with the Jets before moving back to the middle last season, where he is most comfortable. Cowart was playing well until he sprained his knee in Week 2 against San Diego and missed the next six games. He was hardly used when he got healthy. The Vikings have been busy upgrading their defense in the offseason, signing linebacker Napoleon Harris, safety Darren Sharper, cornerback Fred Smoot and Williams in the last three weeks. Including Cowart, the five players bring a combined 339 NFL starts, 57 interceptions, 32 sacks and have played in three Pro Bowls. A freaking 7th round pick!!!!!! But we got Lance Whoopteedoo yesterday. CRAP!!!!!

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03-19-2005, 12:07 AM	#7
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! ..some notable 6th and 7th round picks: Shannon Sharpe Brian Mitchell Brice Paup Jeff Blake Mike Chmurra Frank Whycheck Jeff Zgonina Brock Marion Terrell Davis Chad Coda Gus Frerotte Marco Rivera Jay Riemersma Keith McKenszie Al Harris Chris Fuamatu-Ma\'afala Matt Hasselbeck Pat Tillman Donald Driver Marc Bulger MIchael Hawtorne Tom Brady Tim Rattay JT O\'Sullivan Jay Novacek Eric Martin Greg Lloyd Ed Simmons Bo Jackson Gene Atkins Stan Humphries Michael Haynes Rodney Peete ...why I compiled this list... I don\'t know...

03-19-2005, 01:12 AM	#8
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! interesting list. ya go back at least to 1987 bo jackson (who was #1 overall in \'86), maybe before then with a few names. 36 listed there. let\'s just say 20 years X 32 teams (for simplicity) X 2 rounds (6th-7th)= 1280 picks. 2.8% nameable is a crapshoot. i\'m pathetic enough i look up N.O. 6th and 7ths... bockwoldt kareem kelly talman gardner john gilmore derrius moore o\'sullivan mitch white ennis davis bulger michael hawthorne sherrod gideon kevin houser chris bordano andy mccoullough ron warner nicky savoie keno hills toderick malone henry lusk lee deramus travis davis lance lundeberg phew, to \'94 is tiring enough

03-19-2005, 11:57 AM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Man, I liked Henry Luck as a TE when he was here.

03-21-2005, 08:33 AM	#10
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! i\'m waiting for them to sign Lady Luck. ------ hey, the cowart deal is even sweeter... The Vikings\' trade last week for N.Y. Jets linebacker Sam Cowart, acquired for a 2005 seventh-round draft pick, carried one caveat: If Cowart suffers a training camp injury or does not make the team, the Jets must \"return\" the pick by sending the Vikings their 2006 seventh-round pick.