im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite

Vrillon82 · 02-06-2017, 07:16 PM

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Reading that, if Matt Ryan was truly an elite QB, he would be changing the play or calling the play at the line.

ChrisXVI · 02-06-2017, 08:19 PM

That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

dam1953 · 02-06-2017, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

Well, next year will determine how elite Matty is. If he reverts back to the on again off again Matty of old, maybe all the magic was in fact Shanahan's luck of the Irish.

jeanpierre · 02-07-2017, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

MVPs want the ball in clutch situations; should have the ball in clutch situations; should deliver in clutch situations...

RaginCajun83 · 02-06-2017, 10:08 PM

He wasn't elite to begin with and never will be

Vrillon82 · 02-06-2017, 10:12 PM

Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

Srgt. Hulka · 02-06-2017, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

Don't insult Jim Kelly like that.

K Major · 02-07-2017, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

I wouldn't put him in Kelly company though. Jim was an elite/HOF QB.

Vrillon82 · 02-06-2017, 11:03 PM

So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.

Seer1 · 02-07-2017, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.

Bill Belichick vs Quinn?
Robert Kraft vs Fill in the Blank?
Bill Belichick vs Dimitroff?
Brady vs Matty?
Patricia vs Smith?
McDaniels vs Shanahan?
Kelly vs Matty?

I'm not really seeing much of a similarity where it really counts. And Kelly and Matty in the same sentence makes my spell/grammar checker just go plumb crazy.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Matt's helmet "randomly" stops working - Talk About the Falcons - Falcons Life Forums Reading that, if Matt Ryan was truly an elite QB, he would be changing the play or calling the play at the line. MatthewT likes this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?! MatthewT, RockyMountainSaint and jeanpierre like this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?! Well, next year will determine how elite Matty is. If he reverts back to the on again off again Matty of old, maybe all the magic was in fact Shanahan's luck of the Irish. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?! MVPs want the ball in clutch situations; should have the ball in clutch situations; should deliver in clutch situations...

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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite He wasn't elite to begin with and never will be

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.
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Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Hes the Jim Kelly of the era. Don't insult Jim Kelly like that. AsylumGuido, RaginCajun83, 44Champs and 2 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Hes the Jim Kelly of the era. I wouldn't put him in Kelly company though. Jim was an elite/HOF QB.

02-06-2017, 11:03 PM	#9
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.
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02-07-2017, 07:32 AM	#10
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite Originally Posted by Vrillon82 So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs. Bill Belichick vs Quinn? Robert Kraft vs Fill in the Blank? Bill Belichick vs Dimitroff? Brady vs Matty? Patricia vs Smith? McDaniels vs Shanahan? Kelly vs Matty? I'm not really seeing much of a similarity where it really counts. And Kelly and Matty in the same sentence makes my spell/grammar checker just go plumb crazy.

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