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K Major 02-08-2017 08:45 PM

What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Now that the Super Bowl has ended, another round of mock drafts has hit the worldwide web, including the release of noted ESPN analyst Todd McShay on Wednesday morning.

For the most part, the experts all expect the New Orleans Saints to still go with a pass rusher at No. 11, a pick that wouldn't surprise anybody given the team's trouble consistently getting after quarterbacks.

A link is provided with each name to see who the experts had off the board when the Saints picked, and a look at both Bleacher Report and Sports Illustrated will reveal potential picks beyond the first round.


BY JOEL A. ERICKSON | JERICKSON@THEADVOCATE.COM FEB 8, 2017 - 12:00 PM

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RockyMountainSaint 02-08-2017 09:10 PM

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Thanks for the post K.

Wonder how many mocks had us picking Peat?

jeanpierre 02-08-2017 10:45 PM

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Other than Myles Garrett or Solomon Thomas, there's no defensive end I want in the Top 15 when there are so many other talented players at other positions that could have a dramatic impact on our team...

Malik McDowell has the talent to be Top 15, but is the whispering a red herring operation so a team hope he falls? or does the young man need to get his sh*t straight?

As far as CB, I'd rather Marlon Humphrey or Marshon Lattimore before taking Syd Jones...

Reuben Foster is the guy, if he makes it to us...

triman 02-09-2017 02:00 AM

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The players I see coming up in mocks are Rueben Foster, Solomon Thomas, Derek Barnett , and Jamal Adams. I am good with any of these guys. I think that this draft is deep at CB and Safety. I would wait till 2nd or 3rd for those positions Guard is a position that concerns me more than CB. FA additions will shake up our needs so it hard to tell just yet.

hagan714 02-09-2017 04:54 AM

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A lot of banking on high ceiling cash ins in this group.

I hate draft over weighted on needs in rounds 1 and 2. BPA and if they fill a need at the same good if not oh well we added talent.

Needs kick in round 3.

billyt81 02-09-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736320)
A lot of banking on high ceiling cash ins in this group.

I hate draft over weighted on needs in rounds 1 and 2. BPA and if they fill a need at the same good if not oh well we added talent.

Needs kick in round 3.

I agree with this 100%. BPA!!! Picking for need gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste over Jarvis Landry. If Leonard Fournette is available at #11, I know unlikely, would we pick him? Well Peyton wouldn't. He won't pick LSU players.

Beastmode 02-09-2017 06:41 PM

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Fournette won't be there. I would not be surprised if he even goes earlier than projected. Saying he may get in high 4.3's at the combine which is absolutely stupid for a man that big. As long as it's not the Panthers. I really don't want to face him 2X a year. Praying someone else snags him before they get a shot.

darksoul35 02-10-2017 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 736379)
Fournette won't be there. I would not be surprised if he even goes earlier than projected. Saying he may get in high 4.3's at the combine which is absolutely stupid for a man that big. As long as it's not the Panthers. I really don't want to face him 2X a year. Praying someone else snags him before they get a shot.

I saw him on a mock and thought the same thing. I want no part of him twice a year.

Seer1 02-10-2017 09:20 AM

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Unless we finally get our run defense tweaked.

K Major 02-10-2017 10:47 AM

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I think Mr. Jeff Ireland finds the next Demarcus Ware this upcoming draft.

Euphoria 02-10-2017 02:21 PM

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yeah I think from where we are in the draft and who all is going to possible be there its going to be D. DE or CB?

saintsfan1976 02-10-2017 03:34 PM

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Remember years ago when we all changed our avatar to the player we wanted at #1?

One I recall using: Clay Matthews. And I haven't gotten a linebacker I've wanted (other than Stephone) since.

This is my year. Reuben is coming to New Orleans.

K Major 02-10-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 736447)

This is my year. Reuben is coming to New Orleans.

My gut tells me Foster will either be selected before #11 or we go another route with that pick. Who would be your 2nd choice? Barnett? Bowser? Thomas?

Beastmode 02-10-2017 04:04 PM

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28FEB combine starts. Interested in seeing if this order gets shaken up more than usual. For one, if Fournette runs a sub 4.4 and looks completely healthy it could create a large wake which is good for us. If Cook moves up even better for us.

jeanpierre 02-10-2017 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 736447)
Remember years ago when we all changed our avatar to the player we wanted at #1?

One I recall using: Clay Matthews. And I haven't gotten a linebacker I've wanted (other than Stephone) since.

This is my year. Reuben is coming to New Orleans.

Remember that draft all too well and you weren't the only guy to change it to Clay Matthews...

I'm still in therapy for taking Mr. Bowtie from Ohio St over Goldilocks from SoCal...

That was one of my worst man-crushes in a draft...but we were both right...

hagan714 02-11-2017 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736436)
I think Mr. Jeff Ireland finds the next Demarcus Ware this upcoming draft.

That is scary. the only player I have ever heard compared to Ware is

Takkarist McKinley DE UCLA 6021 258 4.62 #98 Sr
"could be the next DeMarcus Ware." LMAO? pass-rushing specialist? One trick pony? Over hyped? I lean to yes on all questions

Rather roll dice later in the draft on

Jordan Willis WDE/OLB Kansas St 6041 250 4.67 #75 Sr
HGT WGT HAND ARM WING
6036 255 10 33 1/4 80 1/4
length athleticism and speed off the edge.solid awareness and football instincts

Beastmode 02-11-2017 09:17 AM

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Derek Barnett broke Reggie White's career sack record at Tennessee. Nothing to scoff at for sure.

I like all our potential options in 1&2. We can also go OL late and still hit pay dirt. The stars seem to be lining up well for us in best avail vs need which seems to seldom happen for us.

K Major 02-11-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 736476)
Derek Barnett broke Reggie White's career sack record at Tennessee. Nothing to scoff at for sure.

+1 Beast. Barnett's production is also on point. 3 straight seasons of 10+ sacks? That doesn't happen by accident.

Side note - Barnett broke Reggie's sack record in 3 years. The great RWhite played 4 years at Tennessee.

Pick #11 is gonna be very interesting.

ChrisXVI 02-11-2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736477)
+1 Beast. Barnett's production is also on point. 3 straight seasons of 10+ sacks? That doesn't happen by accident.

Side note - Barnett broke Reggie's sack record in 3 years. The great RWhite played 4 years at Tennessee.

Pick #11 is gonna be very interesting.

I might be wrong but I think he's the only player in SEC history to have 10+ sacks in 3 different seasons. That's just incredible!

jeanpierre 02-11-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 736476)
Derek Barnett broke Reggie White's career sack record at Tennessee. Nothing to scoff at for sure.

I like all our potential options in 1&2. We can also go OL late and still hit pay dirt. The stars seem to be lining up well for us in best avail vs need which seems to seldom happen for us.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736477)
+1 Beast. Barnett's production is also on point. 3 straight seasons of 10+ sacks? That doesn't happen by accident.

Side note - Barnett broke Reggie's sack record in 3 years. The great RWhite played 4 years at Tennessee.

Pick #11 is gonna be very interesting.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736480)
I might be wrong but I think he's the only player in SEC history to have 10+ sacks in 3 different seasons. That's just incredible!

Danny Weurffel was great in college too!

Don't see Barnett's game translating to the NFL; his production was in bunches, not every game...

Barnett's too small to hold the edge in a NFL 4-3 and too slow to cover as a 3-4 NFL LBer...

And we already had that player in Galette, who also had issues holding the corner...

Galette was often gashed on run plays by kicking him out with even an average tackle...

All Junior wanted to do was pin his ears back and rush the passer EVERY play, ignoring other assignments...

Need a more complete defensive end to bookend with Cam Jordan, not a pass rush specialist with a first round pick...

QBREES9 02-11-2017 03:11 PM

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Has a mock draft ever been right.

jeanpierre 02-11-2017 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 736495)
Has a mock draft ever been right.

Yes, eight years after the fact... ;)

K Major 02-11-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736484)

Need a more complete defensive end to bookend with Cam Jordan, not a pass rush specialist with a first round pick...

And that player would be? .....

hagan714 02-11-2017 05:48 PM

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My short list at 11 appears to full of bama love and i hate bama

#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

#2 player that appears to be the safest pick
Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR

#1 Freak that comes around once in a life time?
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

#1 upside player?
Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo

RockyMountainSaint 02-11-2017 07:45 PM

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I'd like to see the Saints hit with an immediate impact LB with long term greatness.

We've been starving for it since the decline of The Dome Patrol.

I know it's not easy to find, and be able to draft a dude like that, but one would think that we are due to get one.

jeanpierre 02-11-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736506)
And that player would be? .....

There's only two defensive ends I'd take in the first round - Myles Garrett and...

Maybe Malik McDowell if I can resolve some of the grumblings from Lansing, trying to get some juice...

McDowell is now with Drew Rosenhaus, and so he will be re-branded, and go through his "finishing school"...

Physically this guy is the goods and is what could be an ideal match to Cam Jordan...

K Major 02-11-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736515)
Maybe Malik McDowell if I can resolve some of the grumblings from Lansing, trying to get some juice...

McDowell is now with Drew Rosenhaus, and so he will be re-branded, and go through his "finishing school"...

Physically this guy is the goods and is what could be an ideal match to Cam Jordan...

Meh ...

Watched his tape and nothing really stands out. His footwork and technique needs a lot of coaching up. The production is too inconsistent for my taste. At pick #11, I see better options.

Derek Barnett ...elite production against very good competition and he's a hard nosed player.
Tak McKinley
Tim Williams
Reuben Foster
Zach Cunningham
Solomon Thomas
Tyus Bowser

Rugby Saint II 02-12-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736507)
My short list at 11 appears to full of bama love and i hate bama

#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

#2 player that appears to be the safest pick
Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR

#1 Freak that comes around once in a life time?
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

#1 upside player?
Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo

This kind of talent is one of the reasons why Alabama is so much fun to watch. Roll Tide!!! :p

Seer1 02-12-2017 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 736447)
Remember years ago when we all changed our avatar to the player we wanted at #1?

One I recall using: Clay Matthews. And I haven't gotten a linebacker I've wanted (other than Stephone) since.

This is my year. Reuben is coming to New Orleans.

Obviously, don't go changing your avatar and fix it!

saintsfan1976 02-12-2017 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 736449)
My gut tells me Foster will either be selected before #11 or we go another route with that pick. Who would be your 2nd choice? Barnett? Bowser? Thomas?

I'd be happy with Williams (yes a WR), Kizer or Cunningham.

st thomas 02-12-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736507)
My short list at 11 appears to full of bama love and i hate bama

#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

#2 player that appears to be the safest pick
Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR

#1 Freak that comes around once in a life time?
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

#1 upside player?
Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo

wow u do hate bama lol.. i like your picks though

st thomas 02-12-2017 07:56 PM

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i'm going with BPA at de, we have to get jordan help which will help dbs in coverage and we can get a cb in later rd or trade up and snare at top corner in this rich and better than normal class of dbs. DES in my liking would be garret which aint happening unless we'd trade brees, out on that. barnett i'm not totally sold. Taco charley love the hgt. at 6.6 a little heavy for speed rush but 40 time okay. maybe my sleeper in rd 2 tanohh kapassgon. 6.7 290 4.72 . watch this pick carefully sol. thomas stanford jr. we should show love if he comes out. i cant wait for draft but loving everyones picks .

K Major 02-12-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736507)
#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

Trade up? With all of the talent in this years draft?

No way Jose'.

jeanpierre 02-12-2017 11:16 PM

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If Myles Garrett started falling to say to third or fourth because CLE and SF are pressured into QBs, then you could get into a crazy scenarios to move up...

You've got a friends in CHI GM Ryan Pace (3rd) & JAX HC Doug Marrone (4th), gauge interest in a swap of firsts & maybe send LT Terron Armstead for their 2nd round pick...

Kick Peat to LT and now you've got a high second round pick to find another LG - assuming you didn't sign BOTH a Right Guard (hopefully Kevin Zeitler) and a Left Guard in FA?

You've also created more cap room down river for Brees, Cooks, Vaccaro, and Breaux; and you push back money you'd have to commit to the O-Line for a couple of years...

Also consider the same scenario with the team formerly of San Diego to jump up to get Reuben Foster ahead of CAR, CIN, BUF, all teams that'd jump at Foster...

Garrett and Foster are turbo-charged, world changers for defenses and the only two I'd consider moving up for in this draft...

iceshack149 02-13-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736583)
If Myles Garrett started falling to say to third or fourth because CLE and SF are pressured into QBs, then you could get into a crazy scenarios to move up...

You've got a friends in CHI GM Ryan Pace (3rd) & JAX HC Doug Marrone (4th), gauge interest in a swap of firsts & maybe send LT Terron Armstead for their 2nd round pick...

Kick Peat to LT and now you've got a high second round pick to find another LG - assuming you didn't sign BOTH a Right Guard (hopefully Kevin Zeitler) and a Left Guard in FA?

You've also created more cap room down river for Brees, Cooks, Vaccaro, and Breaux; and you push back money you'd have to commit to the O-Line for a couple of years...

Also consider the same scenario with the team formerly of San Diego to jump up to get Reuben Foster ahead of CAR, CIN, BUF, all teams that'd jump at Foster...

Garrett and Foster are turbo-charged, world changers for defenses and the only two I'd consider moving up for in this draft...

I'd hate to get rid of one of the best LT's in league even though he seems oft injured and the Saints place more importance on the three interior linemen. I'm hopeful that of the ten teams picking before the Saints, at least five will pick offensive specialty positions (2 QB, 2 RB and 1 WR) giving them a shot at some great options at a front seven position.

And from what I've read, Jeff Ireland has been a calming influence in the draft room. Just wait for your player and see if a team wants to give up a bunch to switch draft positions. No more trade ups!

Lord_Saint83 02-13-2017 06:15 PM

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I've seen two mocks of us getting sidney wilson from florida. I know cbs there usually get drafted fairly high but are just ok in the nfl and is he better than hargraves when he was there? Also i like barnett dudes got a very high motor and good hand technique. i know he was average athleticism but i see bosa in him.

jeanpierre 02-13-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 736658)
I'd hate to get rid of one of the best LT's in league even though he seems oft injured and the Saints place more importance on the three interior linemen. I'm hopeful that of the ten teams picking before the Saints, at least five will pick offensive specialty positions (2 QB, 2 RB and 1 WR) giving them a shot at some great options at a front seven position.

And from what I've read, Jeff Ireland has been a calming influence in the draft room. Just wait for your player and see if a team wants to give up a bunch to switch draft positions. No more trade ups!

Ireland sure didn't calm Payton/Loomis last year, twice trading up with two picks for one player (Actually they should've stood pat and waited to see if Vonn Bell fell and they wouldn't have had to do it again for Ony...

triman 02-13-2017 11:34 PM

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I see another Cam Jordan in Solomon Thomas the perfect bookends. we need another bad ass. LB also

K Major 02-14-2017 01:58 PM

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Anyone interested in Tim Williams @ pick #11? Is he ha 3-4 guy? Character concerns?

Thoughts?

K Major 02-14-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 736664)
I've seen two mocks of us getting sidney wilson from florida. I know cbs there usually get drafted fairly high but are just ok in the nfl and is he better than hargraves when he was there?

Lord,
Did you mean Quincy Wilson from Florida or Sidney Jones from Washington? Both are projected as 1st rounders.


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