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Rugby Saint II 02-16-2017 01:40 PM

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We have so many needs on defense that it makes sense to start throwing money at players on the defensive side of the ball when free agency hits. Drew wants a strong and opportunistic defense to help him win a Championship again. I believe that we should give it to him.

But first give him Zeitler to open running lanes and keep the pocket clean for Drew to step into and deliver a laser for another first down.

saintfan 02-16-2017 02:21 PM

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Pay 1/3 more for a guard, that way you can pay 1/3 less for your RB/WR. Drew lights it up with minimal protection. Build out from the lines is what I say.

hagan714 02-16-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736782)
14 million for a guard? Curious to see what his asking price is...

I'm figuring he's looking for a four/five year deal a little better than Kelechi Osemele's deal of 60mil/5 years (12 mil/annum)...

So it would make sense to tag him; however, Cincy may have a guard that can produce at a slightly less rate for a whole let less money...

14 mill for the top guard? so sorry next!
Johnathan Hankins NY Giants 25
Rick Wagner RT Baltimore Ravens 26

next

A.J. Klein MLB Carolina 25
Micah Hyde FS/SS Green Bay 26
Lawrence Guy, DE/DT, Ravens 26

Now look at the next group of OG. Larry Warford ?

jeanpierre 02-16-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736909)
14 mill for the top guard? so sorry next!

Rick Wagner RT Baltimore Ravens 26
A.J. Klein MLB Carolina 25
Micah Hyde FS/SS Green Bay 26

Now look at the next group of OG. Larry Warford ?

What's the difference in that than Jahri Evans?!?

We'd be gettin a player ENTERING his prime rather than paying a descending player...

And if you factor the inflation rate on the cap, that would be the same kinda money?!?

If he puts our O Line and team over the top, why do you not do it?!?

halloween 65 02-16-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736916)
What's the difference in that than Jahri Evans?!?

We'd be gettin a player ENTERING his prime rather than paying a descending player...

And if you factor the inflation rate on the cap, that would be the same kinda money?!?

If he puts our O Line and team over the top, why do you not do it?!?

JP, I could agree about him being able to put the O over the top but not the entire team. We lack to many pieces on D that needs fixed, although we might not see the positions the same on the D side, our O can be fixed easily with a couple players. I'm not knocking him and really think he would be great but thats a great deal of money to give 1 player at 1 position when that money could help fix a few positions on the side that has constantly cost us year in and year out since Payton has been here. I would love to have him don't get me wrong but thats a steep price tag to pay for a O that ranks as high as ours already.

ScottF 02-17-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 736949)
JP, I could agree about him being able to put the O over the top but not the entire team. We lack to many pieces on D that needs fixed, although we might not see the positions the same on the D side, our O can be fixed easily with a couple players. I'm not knocking him and really think he would be great but thats a great deal of money to give 1 player at 1 position when that money could help fix a few positions on the side that has constantly cost us year in and year out since Payton has been here. I would love to have him don't get me wrong but thats a steep price tag to pay for a O that ranks as high as ours already.

I agree.
our offense was first, defense worst.
if we are going to sign the highest paid guy at his position, it can't be on offense

K Major 02-17-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 736967)
I agree.
our offense was first, defense worst.
if we are going to sign the highest paid guy at his position, it can't be on offense

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K Major 02-17-2017 10:14 AM

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Cardinals president confirms they'll use franchise tag on Chandler Jones

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jeanpierre 02-23-2017 08:46 AM

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We had a good, but not great offensive line...and we were stoppable...

You reintroduce dominant guards to this offense, the other team is playing catchup...

And that makes it easier for your defense to pin their ears back, more strip sacks, interceptions...

The offense with the skill players we now have just needs a prime right guard...

There will still be plenty of FA money to compete for a good pass rusher, plus you have one less critical need in the draft...


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