Fairley Staying?
 

Nick Fairley - New Orleans Saints - 2017 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Looks like we'll have a pretty good line this season and with alphabet and the addition of a good DE will even be better.

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I thought they said that as an afterthought if he didn't sign. Very good rotation with all and the other cast of characters.

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Well ... what's a fair price? I don't think NF is elite so he can't really expect "elite" money. I do however believe he is a very good starting caliber 3-tech and it's great having him and Rankins rotate/getting creative when Dennis has them both on the field.

Right now our D line is possibly 1, maybe 2 players away from being complete. Without Fairley, we're possibly one injury away from being short handed ... again. 9M sounds about right.

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Not liking this but oh well. Hope I don't have to say knew it but when has a DT ever got paid and then had good production. Almost never.

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Save about 5 million

FA
Lawrence Guy, DE/DT, Ravens (26) / 6'4' / 305 / Rd. 7 (233) / GB
Sneaky under the radar signing? He can play both the 4-3 and the 3-4. surprising pass rush efficiency. He was one of the best interior pass rushers in 2016. May not have the glory sacks but is always pushing the pocket and getting pressure. The lack of a pass rushing skill set, was the huge knock against him during the draft and killed his stock. I like players that stick to it and just keep getting better.

Save 7 million

Rd 3
Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6022 305 5.14 #54 rSr

Would be a nice pick

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Fairly is expendable. Stop thinking he's not.

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We signed him to a 1 year prove it deal. He proved it.

I have no problem rewarding him with a nice contract with some incentives.

We need him.

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This horse is already dead many times over in another thread.
Maybe we need a poll.

$5m < X, no
$5m => X, yes

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Define "nice". Because there's a ton of risk this franchise can't afford to take when it comes to overpaying free agents. Aside from recent blunders by our front office the DT position is not as dire as it has been made to seem without Fairley.

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a raise sure. Incentives for the big bucks. bump the signing bounce.

but $6-$9 mill with a huge cap hit for a player with a history like his is silly.

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This is true. A Brandon Williams or Jonathan Hankins would easily make Fairley expendable.

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After the dust settles, I think the Giants will end up letting JPP walk in efforts to re sign the younger Hankins. As for Williams, his hopes are to stay in Baltimore (has two young kids in school & is very active w/charity work in the community). I could see him taking a "hometown discount" simply because he loves the area & at this stage of his career his family is priority #1 as opposed to making more money in FA.

Saints FO better have a solid back up plan B & C if Fairley walks.

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Fairley knows the system and works well in it. I want to keep him at a reasonable price. But he has earned and will probably get paid more than we can afford to pay him as a rotational player. I like Rankins, Onyamata and Davison a lot. We have a new technician teaching the D-line and the future looks bright with or without Fairley........it just looks even brighter with him I believe. :cool:

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Correct. Without him we are weaker. We can find a lessor replacement and save a few bucks, but unlike other free agent signings gone bad, we know for a fact that he can produce in our system. I would rather spend more money on that than take a chance at another Browner or Byrd.

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I agree, the odds are Haskins will be retained and JPP will test the open market. If not Hankins jumps up on my want list.

Rankins and Haskins would be a great youth move

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Pay the man.... he earned it ...

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We are weaker without him only if we don't address the position following his departure

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Not disagreeing with your opinion, in fact, it's mine too...

But if you take PFF or ther grading services, Fairley's play was among the best - so he's earned a big check...

Thing is, he may now have rep of a year-to-year player; now that could work to the Saints favour...

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I would go 6 million not a penny more. If he wants more I would go after Bennie Logan. Save the expensive signing for a DE. maybe Ingram at olb and sheard at de. You grab Logan and sheard and we have a defensive front that could be the best in the league.

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I could get on board with Sheard, but does NE let him go?

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Sheard didn't play very well for NE.

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Sheard didn't play bad. 13 sacks in 2 seasons is not bad. Jordan had 17 sacks the past 2 season for the Saints. Did he play bad too?

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Can't compare to Jordan. Jordan doesn't have that kind of supporting cast. To be more precise Sheard didn't impress me last season. Even got benched for his poor play. Reminds me of Browner situation in NE.

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yep to many areas need to be addressed and upgraded

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You give me a guy that avg 6.5 sacks a season across from Jordan and ill be happy. I would be a "pick your poison" for the offenses.

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The problem I see is that many posters are undervaluing Fairley's contributions...hopefully the team doesn't do the same.

Let's all kick back and see what NF actual price tag is :beatnik:.

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I have a feeling he really wants to be here. He comes across as thankful for what the saints did for him. He may actually take a little less to stay in the big easy. I may be wrong but I think he has found his home.

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The figure now is 10 million and I think we can find another one just as good in free agency for half the price.

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We've gpt three really good interior defensive linemen now in Rankins, Davison and Onyemata - and remember that Davison played the season injured...

With Rankins and Davison your likely starters, would you spend that kind of money on a reserve defensive tackle?

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Davidson is no where on the level of Fairley. You are reaching brother.

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Statistics don't tell full story of Tyeler Davison's value to Saints defense | NOLA.com

Saints defensive tackle Tyeler Davison to undergo shoulder surgery | NOLA.com

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Well it was said on NOLA.com so it must be true. This is the writers opinion just like yours and mine. That's all.

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Don't forget we won the superbowl with Sedrick Ellis, Remi Ayodele and Anthony Hargrove as the rotation.

Sure Fairley deserves an extension, but if he wants to handicap the team for one then no thanks.

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If we were "one player away" I'd say pay him $9-10MM.

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I would hate to see what this line would look like without Davison? We're about 1 more good NT away from making the interior being a true force. Fairley has benifited from good nose play but he's not able to play the nose effectively at all. I'm all for letting Fairley walk and getting another good NT in there that puts the D line over the top. Ony, Rankins, Davison and another good NT and we're in buisness. That young group that could terrorize O lines for years to come and have the ability to rotate at will.

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the surgery was almost two months ago...can't find anything about recovery

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TWO WORDS SHELDON RICHARDSON

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Rapoport saying we are close to a "big" deal with NF

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Hope we didn't over pay