Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd

ScottF · 03-01-2017, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus

What does this release mean to us financially? This one aspect of the game I struggle to grasp.

If Byrd plays for us this year he counts 11.2 million against the cap
If he gets cut then he counts $8 mill against the cap, and 3.2 is freed up

ChrisXVI · 03-01-2017, 08:08 AM

Nick Underhill: Jairus Byrd's pending release means Saints' offseason moves will be vital | Saints | theadvocate.com

"Before this move, New Orleans was projected to have something around $30 million in cap space this offseason. Cutting Byrd straight up would save $3.2 million against the cap. If he is designated as a post-June 1 cut, the Saints can spread his dead money over two seasons, which would save them $7.8 million this season."

halloween 65 · 03-01-2017, 08:27 AM

He's finally healthy and we cut him to save 3.2 mil. Not so sure we can find another FS Byrds caliber at 3.2 mil. Some team is going to get a healthy FS at our expense. Bell is nowhere near ready. I hope their not thinking of Vaccarro at FS, that could get ugly.

SmashMouth · 03-01-2017, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

doesn't make sense to me
82 tackles and 2 picks isn't worth 3.7 million?
the guy finally starts looking like the big FA we signed and we cut him

I tend to agree we should ride this horse one more year.

blackangold · 03-01-2017, 09:16 AM

Another poor decision...
The signing wasn't bad, no one knew for certain that Byrd would have so many issues. However, cutting the guy when he finally gets health seems idiotic. Should have just restructured and cut loses next year if it didn't pan out...

K Major · 03-01-2017, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

If Byrd plays for us this year he counts 11.2 million against the cap
If he gets cut then he counts $8 mill against the cap, and 3.2 is freed up

I somewhat get the scenario however aren't the Saints FO taking on more dead money with this move?? In the big picture, 3M certainly doesn't seem like a ton in cap relief. Good luck finding a replacement at that price equal or better than Byrd. If they were so inclined to get rid of him, why not let JB play out this season and then cut him next year when it cost them nothing? In my opinion, we've created a hole. What am I missing here?

Cap Guru's, feel free to chime in.

jeanpierre · 03-01-2017, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Another poor decision...
The signing wasn't bad, no one knew for certain that Byrd would have so many issues. However, cutting the guy when he finally gets health seems idiotic. Should have just restructured and cut loses next year if it didn't pan out...

Why is it idiotic? At one point Vonn Bell was inserted for Byrd even though Byrd was healthy.

Why pay that money to a player who's in a reduced role or even benched? Now that would be idiotic.

We're finally seeing this front office get its proverbial act together because 3 7-9 finishes has them on notice.

If we continue to see the improvement with regards to Draft Management and Scouting, we should see that 7-9 mark improve as well as the talent improves...

jeanpierre · 03-01-2017, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus

What does this release mean to us financially? This one aspect of the game I struggle to grasp.

See Chris' response in the thread.

K Major · 03-01-2017, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

At one point Vonn Bell was inserted for Byrd even though Byrd is supposedly healthy.

Bell was border line bad last year. Rookie lumps? Maybe... JP, man I hope you are right but it's a risk. Moves like this make me wonder if the Saints FO is clearing cap space to make a "splash" on spending more than necessary in FA.

ScottF · 03-01-2017, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bell was border line bad last year. Rookie lumps? Maybe... JP, man I hope you are right but it's a risk. Moves like this make me wonder if the Saints FO is clearing cap space to make a "splash" on spending more than necessary in FA.

agree, but no one (including Loomis) has any idea what the market price will be for Fairley, Zeitler, Peterson, or hell, even Romo. Clearing another 3 million seems like a pittance for losing a player like Byrd.
My thought is, why gamble for another 3-4 million when you have 30 million to use now?

03-01-2017, 07:39 AM	#21
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by Saint in Aus What does this release mean to us financially? This one aspect of the game I struggle to grasp. If Byrd plays for us this year he counts 11.2 million against the cap If he gets cut then he counts $8 mill against the cap, and 3.2 is freed up jnormand, Beastmode and Saint in Aus like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Nick Underhill: Jairus Byrd's pending release means Saints' offseason moves will be vital \| Saints \| theadvocate.com "Before this move, New Orleans was projected to have something around $30 million in cap space this offseason. Cutting Byrd straight up would save $3.2 million against the cap. If he is designated as a post-June 1 cut, the Saints can spread his dead money over two seasons, which would save them $7.8 million this season." ScottF, jeanpierre, Beastmode and 1 others like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd He's finally healthy and we cut him to save 3.2 mil. Not so sure we can find another FS Byrds caliber at 3.2 mil. Some team is going to get a healthy FS at our expense. Bell is nowhere near ready. I hope their not thinking of Vaccarro at FS, that could get ugly. Rsanders24 likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by ScottF doesn't make sense to me 82 tackles and 2 picks isn't worth 3.7 million? the guy finally starts looking like the big FA we signed and we cut him I tend to agree we should ride this horse one more year. SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand, Rsanders24 and 1 others like this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Another poor decision... The signing wasn't bad, no one knew for certain that Byrd would have so many issues. However, cutting the guy when he finally gets health seems idiotic. Should have just restructured and cut loses next year if it didn't pan out... Rsanders24 likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by ScottF If Byrd plays for us this year he counts 11.2 million against the cap If he gets cut then he counts $8 mill against the cap, and 3.2 is freed up I somewhat get the scenario however aren't the Saints FO taking on more dead money with this move?? In the big picture, 3M certainly doesn't seem like a ton in cap relief. Good luck finding a replacement at that price equal or better than Byrd. If they were so inclined to get rid of him, why not let JB play out this season and then cut him next year when it cost them nothing? In my opinion, we've created a hole. What am I missing here? Cap Guru's, feel free to chime in. SaintFanInATLHELL and Rsanders24 like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by blackangold Another poor decision... The signing wasn't bad, no one knew for certain that Byrd would have so many issues. However, cutting the guy when he finally gets health seems idiotic. Should have just restructured and cut loses next year if it didn't pan out... Why is it idiotic? At one point Vonn Bell was inserted for Byrd even though Byrd was healthy. Why pay that money to a player who's in a reduced role or even benched? Now that would be idiotic. We're finally seeing this front office get its proverbial act together because 3 7-9 finishes has them on notice. If we continue to see the improvement with regards to Draft Management and Scouting, we should see that 7-9 mark improve as well as the talent improves... RockyMountainSaint, ChrisXVI, Sarik and 1 others like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by jeanpierre At one point Vonn Bell was inserted for Byrd even though Byrd is supposedly healthy. Bell was border line bad last year. Rookie lumps? Maybe... JP, man I hope you are right but it's a risk. Moves like this make me wonder if the Saints FO is clearing cap space to make a "splash" on spending more than necessary in FA. Rsanders24 likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Will Release Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by K Major Bell was border line bad last year. Rookie lumps? Maybe... JP, man I hope you are right but it's a risk. Moves like this make me wonder if the Saints FO is clearing cap space to make a "splash" on spending more than necessary in FA. agree, but no one (including Loomis) has any idea what the market price will be for Fairley, Zeitler, Peterson, or hell, even Romo. Clearing another 3 million seems like a pittance for losing a player like Byrd. My thought is, why gamble for another 3-4 million when you have 30 million to use now? jnormand, Danno, Rsanders24 and 1 others like this.

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