Brandin Cooks Trade Talks

lee909 · 03-04-2017, 04:50 AM

He wont be there at 11 imo

hagan714 · 03-04-2017, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

He wont be there at 11 imo

unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5.

The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure

All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box?

Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster.

It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense.

jnormand · 03-04-2017, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5.

The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure

All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box?

Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster.

It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense.

I agree. I don't see why so many people think Leonard Fournette is a good choice this year. I agree he's a polarizing and exciting player, but the needs on defense are more important. And you're right, the offensive line is built for zone running. It doesn't make sense to draft him. Mark Ingram has played plenty well enough to utilize as our regular back. If we drafted Fournette, then Mark Ingram would need to be traded. There's no point to making him a third down back or something. And no point in drafting Fournette to be a short yardage back.

IMO, the focus needs to be on the defensive line, LBs and secondary. Maybe even the offensive line. We have huge holes and question marks all over those.

RB is not a need right now.

I'm not going to piss and moan if they draft Fournette, but they better have big plans to do something about the gaping holes on defense if they go that route. We already know that a really good offense and a ****ty defense won't get you more then 7-9.

st thomas · 03-06-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

He wont be there at 11 imo

carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

Beastmode · 03-06-2017, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

Praying LF stays out of our Division. We are going to get a good player at 11. If we can get two picks in the first even better. If Panthers miss on LF and we get two picks in the first that is the most ideal situation to me. Have to fix this weak defense. If we can go from 27th to say 18th in that department we are going to make the playoffs.

AsylumGuido · 03-06-2017, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Praying LF stays out of our Division. We are going to get a good player at 11. If we can get two picks in the first even better. If Panthers miss on LF and we get two picks in the first that is the most ideal situation to me. Have to fix this weak defense. If we can go from 27th to say 18th in that department we are going to make the playoffs.

Fournette will be there when the Panthers pick. His poor performances at the combine insured that.

03-04-2017, 04:50 AM	#1
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 He wont be there at 11 imo unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5. The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box? Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster. It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense. jnormand and 44Champs like this.
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03-04-2017, 11:32 AM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,771	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by hagan714 unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5. The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box? Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster. It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense. I agree. I don't see why so many people think Leonard Fournette is a good choice this year. I agree he's a polarizing and exciting player, but the needs on defense are more important. And you're right, the offensive line is built for zone running. It doesn't make sense to draft him. Mark Ingram has played plenty well enough to utilize as our regular back. If we drafted Fournette, then Mark Ingram would need to be traded. There's no point to making him a third down back or something. And no point in drafting Fournette to be a short yardage back. IMO, the focus needs to be on the defensive line, LBs and secondary. Maybe even the offensive line. We have huge holes and question marks all over those. RB is not a need right now. I'm not going to piss and moan if they draft Fournette, but they better have big plans to do something about the gaping holes on defense if they go that route. We already know that a really good offense and a ****ty defense won't get you more then 7-9. hagan714, 44Champs and MarchingOn like this.

03-06-2017, 08:19 AM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 He wont be there at 11 imo carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by Beastmode Praying LF stays out of our Division. We are going to get a good player at 11. If we can get two picks in the first even better. If Panthers miss on LF and we get two picks in the first that is the most ideal situation to me. Have to fix this weak defense. If we can go from 27th to say 18th in that department we are going to make the playoffs. Fournette will be there when the Panthers pick. His poor performances at the combine insured that.

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