Saints move to #1 pick possible?

The Dude · 03-05-2017, 08:02 PM

If that happens you will have thousands of fans screaming because "we could have gotten Leonard Fournet"

Seer1 · 03-05-2017, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If that happens you will have tens of fans screaming because "we could have gotten Leonard Fournet"

FIFY

He's nothing of what we need this draft year.....

Euphoria · 03-05-2017, 09:48 PM

- I don't see us getting a #5 pick for cooks unless its packaged with our #11
- I Don't see us moving up to #1 it would cost so much and the ony pic there would be for Garrett.

- If we go with #5 at this point after watching the combine the pick better be Haason Reddick, LB, Temple:

I see us staying put and see how the draft shakes out for us because Foster could drop to us as well after that being at the Combine.

foreverfan · 03-05-2017, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We have all heard about the talk to move Brandin Cooks for the 5th overall pick. What could we get at #5 that would be a game changer? I propose another option. What if the Saints follow up that trade with a move to #1?

The Browns own #1 with Myles Garrett sitting there. But what is their greatest need? A QB. If they were to trade their first pick overall and another later pick this year and/or next year to the Saints for the fifth overall and a first next year they could still be in perfect shape to get that QB.

With that scenario the Saints could take Garrett and make that first rounder next year be very late in the round.

Possible?

AsylumGuido looks like we found your cat.

burningmetal · 03-06-2017, 02:42 AM

I'm never a fan of going all in for one player. Especially on defensive line, where this team, in particular, has a history of busts. The importance of getting a pass rusher is enormous, and I'd like to see us get one, but I don't want to sell the farm in order to get a guy who MIGHT work out. I don't see anything about Garrett that says he's a "can't miss" prospect. That doesn't mean he won't live up to his hype, but this isn't some super human kind of player that I'd be dumping a ton of assets into.

spkb25 · 03-06-2017, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm never a fan of going all in for one player. Especially on defensive line, where this team, in particular, has a history of busts. The importance of getting a pass rusher is enormous, and I'd like to see us get one, but I don't want to sell the farm in order to get a guy who MIGHT work out. I don't see anything about Garrett that says he's a "can't miss" prospect. That doesn't mean he won't live up to his hype, but this isn't some super human kind of player that I'd be dumping a ton of assets into.

not a good idea, agree. Plus we have far too many moves then to move to number 1, but we're not

burningmetal · 03-06-2017, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If that happens you will have thousands of fans screaming because "we could have gotten Leonard Fournet"

That's just not true at all, but I'm not surprised you went there, again.

Fournette will be a great player if he can stay healthy, but nobody (and by "nobody" I mean about 98% of fans) wants to see us trade up for a running back, no matter how good he may be. We don't feature the run enough to invest that much in a RB, and just as important is the fact that we don't run block particularly well.

AsylumGuido · 03-06-2017, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That's just not true at all, but I'm not surprised you went there, again.

Fournette will be a great player if he can stay healthy, but nobody (and by "nobody" I mean about 98% of fans) wants to see us trade up for a running back, no matter how good he may be. We don't feature the run enough to invest that much in a RB, and just as important is the fact that we don't run block particularly well.

Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing. Several of the commentators on NFL Radio were saying the poor performance showed lack of explosion, something that is necessary for elite success in the NFL. Just repeating what I heard.

burningmetal · 03-06-2017, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing. Several of the commentators on NFL Radio were saying the poor performance showed lack of explosion, something that is necessary for elite success in the NFL. Just repeating what I heard.

I wasn't surprised at his showing at the combine, because he was fairly overweight. He had ankle problems all season that were never given time to properly heal, so I think he's probably been doing a lot of nothing, trying to let that thing heal.

I was a bit surprised he decided to show up, at all. He's run a 4.4 in the past, and when he gets back in shape (which was never a problem before this injury) he'll be fine. A lot of these commentators have short memories, it seems. The previous season, when he was healthy, he was superman. He was blowing by people, running them over, making cuts, and everyone was calling him a generational talent. Now they don't even list him as the best RB in this draft. I find that ridiculous.

Especially when you consider that, despite his injury and conditioning this past season, he was STILL running for more than a hundred yards per game. But, again, as much as it would be cool to see him with the Saints, he doesn't fit our needs. Not when you'd have to trade up to get him, especially.

K Major · 03-06-2017, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing.

Fournette's 40-time is significant given his size. I'm sure he'll run even faster at his LSU Pro day. My hopes is that he goes to the AFC where we don't have to worry about this freight train twice a year

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by The Dude If that happens you will have tens of fans screaming because "we could have gotten Leonard Fournet" FIFY He's nothing of what we need this draft year.....

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? - I don't see us getting a #5 pick for cooks unless its packaged with our #11 - I Don't see us moving up to #1 it would cost so much and the ony pic there would be for Garrett. - If we go with #5 at this point after watching the combine the pick better be Haason Reddick, LB, Temple: I see us staying put and see how the draft shakes out for us because Foster could drop to us as well after that being at the Combine.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We have all heard about the talk to move Brandin Cooks for the 5th overall pick. What could we get at #5 that would be a game changer? I propose another option. What if the Saints follow up that trade with a move to #1? The Browns own #1 with Myles Garrett sitting there. But what is their greatest need? A QB. If they were to trade their first pick overall and another later pick this year and/or next year to the Saints for the fifth overall and a first next year they could still be in perfect shape to get that QB. With that scenario the Saints could take Garrett and make that first rounder next year be very late in the round. Possible? AsylumGuido looks like we found your cat. hagan714 and voodooido like this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? I'm never a fan of going all in for one player. Especially on defensive line, where this team, in particular, has a history of busts. The importance of getting a pass rusher is enormous, and I'd like to see us get one, but I don't want to sell the farm in order to get a guy who MIGHT work out. I don't see anything about Garrett that says he's a "can't miss" prospect. That doesn't mean he won't live up to his hype, but this isn't some super human kind of player that I'd be dumping a ton of assets into.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,103	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm never a fan of going all in for one player. Especially on defensive line, where this team, in particular, has a history of busts. The importance of getting a pass rusher is enormous, and I'd like to see us get one, but I don't want to sell the farm in order to get a guy who MIGHT work out. I don't see anything about Garrett that says he's a "can't miss" prospect. That doesn't mean he won't live up to his hype, but this isn't some super human kind of player that I'd be dumping a ton of assets into. not a good idea, agree. Plus we have far too many moves then to move to number 1, but we're not

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by The Dude If that happens you will have thousands of fans screaming because "we could have gotten Leonard Fournet" That's just not true at all, but I'm not surprised you went there, again. Fournette will be a great player if he can stay healthy, but nobody (and by "nobody" I mean about 98% of fans) wants to see us trade up for a running back, no matter how good he may be. We don't feature the run enough to invest that much in a RB, and just as important is the fact that we don't run block particularly well.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by burningmetal That's just not true at all, but I'm not surprised you went there, again. Fournette will be a great player if he can stay healthy, but nobody (and by "nobody" I mean about 98% of fans) wants to see us trade up for a running back, no matter how good he may be. We don't feature the run enough to invest that much in a RB, and just as important is the fact that we don't run block particularly well. Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing. Several of the commentators on NFL Radio were saying the poor performance showed lack of explosion, something that is necessary for elite success in the NFL. Just repeating what I heard.

03-06-2017, 02:56 PM	#29
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing. Several of the commentators on NFL Radio were saying the poor performance showed lack of explosion, something that is necessary for elite success in the NFL. Just repeating what I heard. I wasn't surprised at his showing at the combine, because he was fairly overweight. He had ankle problems all season that were never given time to properly heal, so I think he's probably been doing a lot of nothing, trying to let that thing heal. I was a bit surprised he decided to show up, at all. He's run a 4.4 in the past, and when he gets back in shape (which was never a problem before this injury) he'll be fine. A lot of these commentators have short memories, it seems. The previous season, when he was healthy, he was superman. He was blowing by people, running them over, making cuts, and everyone was calling him a generational talent. Now they don't even list him as the best RB in this draft. I find that ridiculous. Especially when you consider that, despite his injury and conditioning this past season, he was STILL running for more than a hundred yards per game. But, again, as much as it would be cool to see him with the Saints, he doesn't fit our needs. Not when you'd have to trade up to get him, especially.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints move to #1 pick possible? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not to mention Fournette didn't wow anybody at the combine. In fact, his 40 time and vertical jump were very disappointing. Fournette's 40-time is significant given his size. I'm sure he'll run even faster at his LSU Pro day. My hopes is that he goes to the AFC where we don't have to worry about this freight train twice a year .

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