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CheramieIII 03-09-2017 01:30 PM

Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Butler plus picks? wow

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hagan714 03-09-2017 01:31 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Pats deal as I hear it in Boston is on the table and there is work to do. CB is part of the deal and it is the rest of the deal that is causing issues. Pats do not give anything away.

can the pats match the #18 pick offer from the titians.

lee909 03-09-2017 01:32 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
If its 18 from Titans or Butler im going 18

CheramieIII 03-09-2017 01:33 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
I want Butler and a 3rd or 4th. Butler is better than a 1st round pick

Danno 03-09-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
A top 5 CB for a luxury in our offense?

Heck yes, I'll take Butler.

dizzle88 03-09-2017 01:39 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Called it a few days ago!!

ScottF 03-09-2017 02:17 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
New England has one obstacle to a Butler trade right now, though. The Patriots placed a first-round tender on Butler, who enters this league year as a restricted free agent. Until Butler signs his tender, he is not under contract with the Patriots, and the team does not have the right to trade him.

might have to work out a contract with Butler before this one goes through. He would be smart to NOT sign his tender

saintfan 03-09-2017 02:38 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Getting Butler wouldn't suck!

nola_swammi 03-09-2017 02:39 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Don't need Butler high cap when they can find a CB in this draft

Seer1 03-09-2017 02:44 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 739519)
Don't need Butler high cap if they can find a CB available in their slot in this draft

FIFY

nola_swammi 03-09-2017 02:49 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 739526)
FIFY

FIFY?

ScottF 03-09-2017 02:50 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 739519)
Don't need Butler high cap when they can find a CB in this draft

$3.9 m

nola_swammi 03-09-2017 02:52 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 739533)
$3.9 m

Is that 3.9 mil + free agent next year?

RailBoss 03-09-2017 02:52 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 739531)
FIFY?

Fixed It For You

brees84 03-09-2017 03:15 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Apparently Butler rejected Pats offer (14mil per year).

If this trade really happens then butler will be paid. Nut sure I would give him that kind of contract. Great corner but we are talking about 17-18mil per year... that's crazy



lee909 03-09-2017 03:19 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
I wouldn't touch him due to that contract
We would be getting him for 1 year or vastly overpaying

Draft picks

brees84 03-09-2017 03:30 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Bouye also got 13,5 mil per year.

Butler is way better player but how much money would you pay him.

WillSaints81 03-09-2017 06:45 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Then why did the pats pay the same amount for Gilmore?

Danno 03-09-2017 07:11 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
The Pats beat writer mentioned that Logan Ryan may also be in the mix

jnormand 03-09-2017 08:05 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Ugh...not a fan of a huge contract coming with Butler. No way. Maybe Ryan can be traded instead.

If not...**** it. We keep Cooks or we can use him in a draft day trade.

I wouldn't break the bank for Butler. If he wants 17-18 million a year I'd tell them to take a hike. He's good but he ain't THAT good.

foreverfan 03-09-2017 08:08 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 739518)
Getting Butler wouldn't suck!

Losing Cooks unless it is for equal talent sucks. Cooks is a great WR.

Seer1 03-09-2017 08:20 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
One of the Patriot's keys to success is they never NEED anybody. Cooks could easily be the best guy out there for their system, but there's at least five or six guys out there that'll fill in almost as well. They'll never give an opponent an advantage by overspending or even giving fair market value for anyone because of that. I said the Pats would pop back up before it was all over, but I think our best two options'll be a trade with the Titans or us just keepin' that fine young man.

ChrisXVI 03-09-2017 08:21 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
I'm feeling more and more like this trade isn't gonna happen.

burningmetal 03-09-2017 08:33 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
This might sound like a good deal on the surface, but I'm wary of taking players from the Patriots. They have a knack for making guys look a whole lot better than they actually are.

Considering Butler came out of nowhere, in the first place, it makes me wonder all the more if he can succeed outside of their system.

If they'd still throw in their first rounder, I'd say go for it. But that would be stupid on the Patriots part.

NonieT 03-09-2017 08:51 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 739731)
I'm feeling more and more like this trade isn't gonna happen.

God, I hope you're right.

voodooido 03-09-2017 09:09 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 739731)
I'm feeling more and more like this trade isn't gonna happen.

I have a feeling we are asking for more compensation than just Butler because of the contracts. I would say a conditional 6th rd pick next year that could become a 4th

AllSaints 03-09-2017 09:23 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
We need a proven CB and butler is one of the best in the business.... Brandon cooks will be getting paid next season you think he will play under the rookie contract if he puts up another good season.... no dude will get paid and he is the one who wants out... I don't want a guy who doesn't even want to play for us.... getting butler would be huge ....

saintshrimp 03-09-2017 10:39 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
We dont have to trade him so why rush.if it were me. I would be calling Cleveland and their boat load of picks and see if they wanna deal say cooks and 11 and possible nect yr 2 or 3 for Myles Garrett in

voodooido 03-09-2017 11:34 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 739761)
We dont have to trade him so why rush.if it were me. I would be calling Cleveland and their boat load of picks and see if they wanna deal say cooks and 11 and possible nect yr 2 or 3 for Myles Garrett in

Because Garrett is going to suck. He disappered against above avg teams. He quits on plays and had half his sacks against UTSA

Beastmode 03-09-2017 11:44 PM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Cooks would have more individual success in Cleveland IMO. For the Pats, not going to happen for him. He would also likely be let go at the end of the season. I don't see them ponying up for some stellar contract for a WR.

Cooks is really in a bad spot. Should have kept quiet. He could potentially wind up on his third team in 3 years and then get stuck on a truly awful team the rest of his career.

jnormand 03-10-2017 12:29 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
If he stays....His mouth better shut and he better start being a teamer. I don't give a hell if he gets "fed" or not. Wins. That's all that matters. Wins.

nola_swammi 03-10-2017 03:08 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Trading cooks for butler will be a Big mistake. I'll rather we take our chances with a draft pick. The division New England in who do he really have to cover? Speedy recievers like Kenny Stills had a field day on him and they used schemes to cover Antoino Browns and he still broke loose. Don't be fooled by a papa john commercial

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hagan714 03-10-2017 04:36 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
butler is on a tag and wanting big bucks

lee909 03-10-2017 04:50 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Thats my problem as the draft class is fully stacked through at least two rounds at CB.

Id only take picks. What i would do though is try to find out what Butler wants and if its agreeable post or during the draft offer the Pats a 3rd round pick for him. He will walk in a year and they will take something rather than nothing imo


Looking at that Miami-Rams trade last night. Think we missed out there. Hayes would have offered good rotation at a minimum at DE and just swapping a 6th for 7th would have been worth a deal

spkb25 03-10-2017 04:52 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
far too many failures signing and trading for high priced CB's in this league. Huge gamble. I don't like it

RaginCajun83 03-10-2017 10:07 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Just keep Cooks and find a CB in the draft

saintsfan1976 03-10-2017 10:14 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 739827)
Just keep Cooks and find a CB in the draft

Tre Davious White Round 2. And he's a return man.

frydaddy 03-10-2017 10:17 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 739831)
Tre Davious White Round 2. And he's a return man.

He had a strong combine. Almost certainly a first round pick now I'm afraid.

K Major 03-10-2017 10:20 AM

Re: Patriots considering trading Malcolm Butler to Saints for Brandin Cooks: report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 739831)
Tre Davious White Round 2. And he's a return man.

I think Tre' will be electric at the next level however after his combine and senior bowl workout (before the injury), he could possible become a day 1 selection.

Edit: Fry you beat me to it... agreed. His stock has gone up.

saintsfan1976 03-10-2017 10:26 AM

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If he goes up then the kid from USC falls. And he's goooood


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