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Danno 03-09-2017 03:49 PM

A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Mike Triplett?Verified account @MikeTriplett 38s38 seconds ago More Per @caplannfl #Saints’ deal with LB A.J. Klein is three years, $15 million, close to $10M guaranteed (with fourth year that voids)
Love what his former teammates had to say

Carolina Panthers LB A.J. Klein might have one edge over Luke Kuechly - NFC South- ESPN

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- A.J. Klein might be faster than Luke Kuechly.

You heard it here first.


“And he’s faster than TD."

That would be outside linebacker Thomas Davis, who won’t admit anybody is faster than him.

But Klein is fast.

“I don’t think people quite understand his abilities, which is just fine with me," Carolina coach Ron Rivera said. “He’s a solid football player and does some good things for us."

Davis doesn’t hesitate to say Klein could start for 31 other teams.

“I honestly believe he could be a starter on any team," he said.

“It reaffirmed for us what we saw in A.J. before that," defensive coordinator Sean McDermott said. “To step in that role, to command the defense and control really what we’re trying to get done on defense, I thought he did a nice job and made plays at the same time.

“It’s one thing to get people lined up. It’s another to make plays. He did both of those extremely well."

Davis agreed.

“His ability to come in and lead the defense from a play-calling standpoint ... he doesn’t lack any confidence from that," he said. “He came in and did a great job, and we expect him to do the same thing this time."


“A.J. is a very smart, instinctive player, just like Luke," he said. “Luke and A.J. are two peas in a pod, as far as what they do all together.

“A.J.’s going to be ready, locked in, and you’re not going to see any difference."

“Luke is Luke. Everyone understands," Pro Bowl tight end Greg Olsen said. “But A.J. is considered a starter on this team. He’s starter-caliber talent. His production has been starter-caliber.

Klein’s versatility will make for interesting negotiations if the Panthers hope to keep him. If he plays well over the next few weeks, his price tag could be too expensive if another team offers him starting money.

Kuechly currently is the fourth-highest paid linebacker in the league at $12,360,313 million a year. Davis is tied for 12th at $9 million a year. The Panthers also still hope to re-sign Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kawann Short.

“I can’t imagine many teams, if they need a middle linebacker, that he wouldn’t be able to go there and be very, very productive," Coleman said of Klein. “You’re going to get the ultimate guy."

That sounds like something people have been saying about Kuechly for years.

“A.J. is a really good player," Olsen said. “On a lot of teams A.J. is an every-down starter. What he brings is toughness, intelligence. He’s more athletic and can cover ground maybe better than people anticipate."

Maybe faster than Kuechly.

ChrisXVI 03-09-2017 03:53 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Welcome aboard AJ! Admittedly I don't know much about him in terms of strengths and weaknesses but I like what I'm hearing! Let's not forget that he gets to work with Mike Nolan now as well so it could be a very bright future.

hagan714 03-09-2017 03:58 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Now this will be big bang fir the bucks

voodooido 03-09-2017 04:00 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
5 million a year for a player who has been a back up his whole career? Not saying he won't start for us but sheesh, that's a lot for a part time player.

halloween 65 03-09-2017 04:01 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 739593)
Welcome aboard AJ! Admittedly I don't know much about him in terms of strengths and weaknesses but I like what I'm hearing! Let's not forget that he gets to work with Mike Nolan now as well so it could be a very bright future.

I bet Nolan whispered his name softly in Paytons ear. I think we got a stud on the cheap. Now if we can land Hankins in FA and draft OLB Cunningham, I would be a happy, happy camper.

Danno 03-09-2017 04:04 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 739600)
5 million a year for a player who has been a back up his whole career? Not saying he won't start for us but sheesh, that's a lot for a part time player.

He's not coming here to be a part time player. He was also behind the best MLB in the NFL. When he did start, the Panthers didn't skip a beat.

I'm excited about this guy.

nola_swammi 03-09-2017 04:06 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
A.J. Klein 4.66 40. 20 bench. 33 vertical



*don't let the comparison to Scott Shanle scare you
NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - A.J. Klein

saintsfan1976 03-09-2017 04:08 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Hagan finally gets his man!! LOL

Danno 03-09-2017 04:11 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Its obvious he's not a Dont'a Hightower, but I'm convinced its an upgrade to playing Robertson in the middle.

At worst I think he'll be NFL average with a decent ceiling. Thats better than what we've had lately.

Craig can now go back to WLB and thrive.

hagan714 03-09-2017 04:11 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 739608)
Hagan finally gets his man!! LOL

Wanted him during that draft and always had to watch him play for the panthers since. finally

Danno 03-09-2017 04:13 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
He's in the 2nd tier of free-agents (3-star F/A) that most of us agreed we should target instead of the mega-splash guys. Thats kinda what we just did.

triman 03-09-2017 04:13 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Smart move good price makes us better immediately and leaves us a leeway to make more moves

halloween 65 03-09-2017 04:14 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
I suppose this move takes Foster off the draft wish list.

Danno 03-09-2017 04:17 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 739613)
I suppose this move takes Foster off the draft wish list.

I wouldn't rule Foster out at all. Klein can also play outside.

Seer1 03-09-2017 04:18 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Supposedly so can Foster, although a bunch of fake drafts have him heading to Cincy. It will allow us to look at the edge or the D backfield.

ChrisXVI 03-09-2017 04:19 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 739617)
I wouldn't rule Foster out at all. Klein can also play outside.

Yep and a lot of people actually project Foster to be a better fit as a weakside LB.

K Major 03-09-2017 04:32 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 739613)
I suppose this move takes Foster off the draft wish list.

I hope not. Reuben is the most complete collegiate LB prospect in the nation. He is still high on my draft "wish list" at pick #11.

halloween 65 03-09-2017 05:06 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
I would take Cunningham at OLB everyday over Foster.

Saint in Aus 03-09-2017 06:24 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Loving these signings.

saintsfan1976 03-09-2017 06:31 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 739609)
Its obvious he's not a Dont'a Hightower, but I'm convinced its an upgrade to playing Robertson in the middle.

At worst I think he'll be NFL average with a decent ceiling. Thats better than what we've had lately.

Craig can now go back to WLB and thrive.

And Reuben Foster at the strong side

voodooido 03-09-2017 07:15 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 739603)
He's not coming here to be a part time player. He was also behind the best MLB in the NFL. When he did start, the Panthers didn't skip a beat.

I'm excited about this guy.

To be honest I don't know to much about the guy. I hope you're right. Maybe I'm living in the 90's but 5 million a year seems steep for a player with less than 15 starts.

Danno 03-09-2017 07:19 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 739703)
To be honest I don't know to much about the guy. I hope you're right. Maybe I'm living in the 90's but 5 million a year seems steep for a player with less than 15 starts.

Kinda, it depends on how the contract is structured. We paid 5/yr for Curtis Lofton several years ago.

10 million guaranteed over 4 years (2.5 per year) isn't exactly gonna break anyone in todays NFL.

burningmetal 03-09-2017 07:56 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Finally, some off season news that doesn't suck. Other than some of the coaching changes.

I think this guy could be more than solid. He seems like a breakout player in waiting. It would sure be nice if he is.

spkb25 03-09-2017 08:26 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/rai...n-free-agency/

hagan714 03-09-2017 09:33 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Klein MLB
Robertson WLB
Anthony SLB?

enter TJ Watt in round 2.
T.J. Watt OLB/DE/TE Wisconsin 6042 243 4.65 #42 rJr
While SLB is written all over him. SDE could be a solid option also.


Need a cover LB?
Round 1/2
Zach Cunningham MLB/OLB Vanderbilt 6032 230 4.67 #41 rJr
Haason Reddick, WLB/ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr

Round 4/5
Jordan Evans ILB/OLB/SS Oklahoma 6021 232 4.51 #26 Sr

Need a project?
Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.65 #81 Sr
Duke Riley WOLB/SS/ILB LSU 6005 231 4.58 #40

The signing of AJ open a world of options. The front 4 has to keep him clean. Something the saints were not good at last year. The main reason I wanted Johnathan Hankins over Nick Fairley,

It is a solid start

Rugby Saint II 03-10-2017 11:14 AM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 739606)
A.J. Klein 4.66 40. 20 bench. 33 vertical



*don't let the comparison to Scott Shanle scare you
NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - A.J. Klein

I don't keep up much with LB'er speed. Is 4.66 slow? Shanle was solid but I want spectacular!:bng:

Euphoria 03-10-2017 11:28 AM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 739846)
I don't keep up much with LB'er speed. Is 4.66 slow? Shanle was solid but I want spectacular!:bng:

We maybe drafting spectacular!!!!

frydaddy 03-10-2017 11:47 AM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 739846)
I don't keep up much with LB'er speed. Is 4.66 slow? Shanle was solid but I want spectacular!:bng:

4.66 isn't bad at all, especially not with his size.

voodooido 03-10-2017 12:21 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 739752)
Klein MLB
Robertson WLB
Anthony SLB?

enter TJ Watt in round 2.
T.J. Watt OLB/DE/TE Wisconsin 6042 243 4.65 #42 rJr
While SLB is written all over him. SDE could be a solid option also.


Need a cover LB?
Round 1/2
Zach Cunningham MLB/OLB Vanderbilt 6032 230 4.67 #41 rJr
Haason Reddick, WLB/ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr

Round 4/5
Jordan Evans ILB/OLB/SS Oklahoma 6021 232 4.51 #26 Sr

Need a project?
Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.65 #81 Sr
Duke Riley WOLB/SS/ILB LSU 6005 231 4.58 #40

The signing of AJ open a world of options. The front 4 has to keep him clean. Something the saints were not good at last year. The main reason I wanted Johnathan Hankins over Nick Fairley,

It is a solid start

Watt is overrated. He's where he is because of the last name. Give me Cunningham in rd 1 or beckwith in rd 4.

saintfan 03-10-2017 12:51 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
I think we're all going to be very happy with this fellow...

Crusader 03-10-2017 01:02 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 739846)
I don't keep up much with LB'er speed. Is 4.66 slow? Shanle was solid but I want spectacular!:bng:

Its not blazing but it isn't horrible either. He looks pretty fast on film.

Euphoria 03-10-2017 01:58 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
I just want to know if LB coach Mike Nolan wants this guy and thinks about him.

If he wanted him him then I'd be ok.

Crusader 03-10-2017 04:13 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
i would expect Nolan to have som input on the signing on FA LBs. Anything else would be quite strange.

Cruize 03-10-2017 05:54 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
He's a good player. Very solid. Plus, he takes away the Panthers experience behind LK. Who, God bless him, is one play away from retirement.

pherein 03-10-2017 07:23 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 739846)
I don't keep up much with LB'er speed. Is 4.66 slow? Shanle was solid but I want spectacular!:bng:

Truefully speed is over rated in the NFL. Not sure why it is brought up that much by news guys. I mean the difference between 4.0 and 4.66 is .66 of 1 second lol. Thats not a huge difference.
Also doesnt matter if it cant be sustened, endurance, like cooks can do. To prove that point the great Walter Payton ran 4.84 second 40-yard dash.
Im not sure alot of test in the combine are worth much.

MarchingOn 03-10-2017 08:38 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 739858)
Watt is overrated. He's where he is because of the last name. Give me Cunningham in rd 1 or beckwith in rd 4.

No, Watt is being HURT by his last name similar to QB Carr was just waiting to be taken early in the 2nd if judged on his own merits.

Rsanders24 03-10-2017 09:35 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Carolina will probably replace him with Riley from LSU...some think he will be better that Deion Jones...

papz 03-11-2017 11:46 AM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
He's the heat seeking missile Debo is just without the same ball skills. Love this guy.

If you've watch TJ Watt play on Saturdays, you'd know it isn't his last name that makes him a good player. That said, it doesn't hurt that he has the blood line and intensity his brother shares. That's a positive.

Papa Voodoo 03-11-2017 04:56 PM

Re: A.J. Klein (3 year, $15 mill, $10M guaranteed)
 
Isn't Robertson MLB? I didn't get to see many games last season so hopefully he played a different spot and Klein is here to replace what Laranitus was supposed to be?


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