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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 Bingo we have a winner Pick 32 has a long history of being a prime trade pick. So you are actually giving up more than one pick, Then paying top dollar for CB that is not ...
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Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!
That's why I am hoping we don't give up either or our firsts for Butler... And if the Pats will not take anything else than good riddance
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So the Pats gain Cooks,Gilmour and a 4th rounder.
We get Butler and a comp third but loose a early 4th and Cooks We could have tried for Gilmour or Bouye and gained a 1st, comp 3 for Cooks and a 4. Should have seriously gone after a FA CB imo Pats to sign McCourty and he is a pro bowler this year |
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Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!
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How do you know the Saints didn't speak with Gilmore's agent? He may have been priced out of our range. All Butler was guaranteed from the Patriots was his $3.9 million tender. All the Saints needed to do was make a deal sweeter than that. But, we'll see what the numbers are if the deal truly has been made.
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All we had to do was sweeten that deal?
That a one year deal before he hits FA. He has no choice in that, its the tender deal offered by the NFL. If he was likely to sign for 10ml he would likely habe been kept long term by NE. We will see what the numbers are but id be shocked if its avg under 12ml a year |
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Guido you raise a valid question, but I think if the Saints had made a real effort to pursue Gilmore, word would have leaked as it did with the other signings...
If all goes through as speculated, we will have traded a first and third round pick to move up in the 2014 draft from 27 to 20, and select Brandin Cooks... Developed, featured Brandin Cooks as a NFL Top 10 (conservatively, I'd argue Top 5) wide receiver, traded Cooks for... An Undrafted, Rookie Free Agent Corner back rated top 10/5 who rarely covers taller X receivers (usually the opponents No. 1 WR) and pay him Top 8 money... A CB who, despite making some of the biggest plays in his franchise's history, was declined a lucrative extension, and instead passed over by his rookie franchise who decidedsigning a more physical, taller corner back from a division opponent as his success is viewed by many as an extension of the defensive system he was attached... And throw in moving an early fourth round pick into a late third round pick, essentially moving up 15 spots to Pick No. 103 from No. 118, which will be forfeited by Commissioner as penalty against the Pats... We will need to wait till it plays out as the devil is in the details, but if it plays out this way, it's just more Payton/Loomis head scratching, self-handicapping personnel moves... |
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I'm ok with getting Butler. But I'm not happy about the #32 pick. If he gets even close to the money Gilmore got from the Pats, he better make an instantaneous impact.
And if we're giving up the #32, we better not be giving them any more picks!!! |
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