Yea to me it's obvious that Payton is too eager to make this happen. Payton sees a player he wants and like a crackhead try's his damndest to make it happen. Billicheck knows he has Payton over a barrel. I would like to see him here but only at the right cost. Should have packaged it in with Cooks deal.

Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract.

Do you have a clue how it works at all?

No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later.

The Patriots tendered Butler; nothing could be done until Butler himself was ready to sign the tender.

Teams sign players at contract numbers players agree to. It gets worked out between the three parties. Team A wants a player and is willing to assume X amount of dollars in the contract. All parties agree and team B signs player at that amount then trades him. Could have been worked out as soon as it was allowed.

You can't even negotiate concerning a player not under contract. You can't do a three party deal when the main party cannot be discussed at all. It wouldn't "work out" because it isn't allowed under NFL rules. Not only would the NFL Office deny the transaction, but both franchises would be fined (at minimum) for breaking the rules. More likely both franchises would lose draft picks.

Yet this has been discussed openly in the media for months. I said as soon as it was allowed . Waa waa waa I'm asylum guido and I know everything

You can't even negotiate concerning a player not under contract. You can't do a three party deal when the main party cannot be discussed at all. It wouldn't "work out" because it isn't allowed under NFL rules. Not only would the NFL Office deny the transaction, but both franchises would be fined (at minimum) for breaking the rules. More likely both franchises would lose draft picks.