Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee

WillSaints81 · 03-21-2017, 08:04 PM

Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.

dizzle88 · 03-21-2017, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.

Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, he isn't signed by the pats yet and we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams.

I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks.

saintfan · 03-21-2017, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, now it's set we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams.

I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks.

I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11.

dizzle88 · 03-21-2017, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11.

Absolutely right, giving up the #11 pick would be absurd. I'd rather keep both but I could handle giving the #32, I just think the Pats will try and screw us any way they can.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.

Because Butler isn't signed so the Pats can't trade at this point. Catch up, Will(insert team name here)81.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-25-2017, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.

Butler isn't under contract because he hasn't signed his tender. He cannot be traded unless he's under contract. Cooks was owed a $750K roster bonus the 5th day of the league year, March 13th.

So in short, Cooks needed to be moved immediately, while Butler could not, and still cannot, be moved until he signs.

So that's why your proposal cannot be done.

BTW overrated or underrated, Butler is going to want $12 million+ money to come here. That's overpriced. So I agree that a pass is warranted.

SFIAH

03-21-2017, 08:08 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated. Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, he isn't signed by the pats yet and we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams. I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks. Cruize and SmashMouth like this.

03-21-2017, 08:21 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee Originally Posted by saintfan I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11. Absolutely right, giving up the #11 pick would be absurd. I'd rather keep both but I could handle giving the #32, I just think the Pats will try and screw us any way they can.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated. Because Butler isn't signed so the Pats can't trade at this point. Catch up, Will(insert team name here)81.

03-25-2017, 06:28 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated. Butler isn't under contract because he hasn't signed his tender. He cannot be traded unless he's under contract. Cooks was owed a $750K roster bonus the 5th day of the league year, March 13th. So in short, Cooks needed to be moved immediately, while Butler could not, and still cannot, be moved until he signs. So that's why your proposal cannot be done. BTW overrated or underrated, Butler is going to want $12 million+ money to come here. That's overpriced. So I agree that a pass is warranted. SFIAH

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee Originally Posted by dizzle88 Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, now it's set we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams. I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks. I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11. SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.