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Malcolm Butler Just Another 'Non-Essential' Patriots Employee

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Was this some planned move by the FO to do a "half-assed" trade? I'm sick of Payton and his Belichik ball washing....

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Old 03-21-2017, 09:05 PM   #11
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Was this some planned move by the FO to do a "half-assed" trade? I'm sick of Payton and his Belichik ball washing.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:08 PM   #12
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Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.
Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, he isn't signed by the pats yet and we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams.

I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:17 PM   #13
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Have you read any of the butler threads at all? Butler is a restricted free agent. It's not as easy as just signing him when he visits. The Saints couldn't sign Butler until his tender was set by the Patriots, now it's set we have to be careful and work out a trade that works for both teams.

I personally hope we keep both 1st round picks.
I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:18 PM   #14
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Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.
Because Butler isn't signed so the Pats can't trade at this point. Catch up, Will(insert team name here)81.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:21 PM   #15
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I won't die off if we lose 32, but for me it's insane to even consider 11.
Absolutely right, giving up the #11 pick would be absurd. I'd rather keep both but I could handle giving the #32, I just think the Pats will try and screw us any way they can.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:23 PM   #16
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Yet we were not happy when we traded Cooks for the last pick in the first round. Now, we're gonna trade Cooks for another system player(we have already seen the history Browner, Gay, Hicks, that saints guy that won the sb with pats).
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Was this some planned move by the FO to do a "half-assed" trade? I'm sick of Payton and his Belichik ball washing.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:28 PM   #18
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Then why didn't the saints agree to that in the first place. Butler is not worth Cooks straight up. Butler is overrated.
Butler isn't under contract because he hasn't signed his tender. He cannot be traded unless he's under contract. Cooks was owed a $750K roster bonus the 5th day of the league year, March 13th.

So in short, Cooks needed to be moved immediately, while Butler could not, and still cannot, be moved until he signs.

So that's why your proposal cannot be done.

BTW overrated or underrated, Butler is going to want $12 million+ money to come here. That's overpriced. So I agree that a pass is warranted.

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Old 03-26-2017, 03:50 PM   #19
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I hope the Saints keep all their picks.
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Old 03-27-2017, 12:29 PM   #20
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The Patriots can have this years third and next years fourth or fifth. That's it! If not, then we're drafting two corners in the first two or three rounds.
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