Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract

hagan714 · 03-16-2017, 07:13 PM

Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract

Josh Katzenstein, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

The New Orleans Saints didn't have many top-tier options as they scanned the free-agent market for a pass rusher, but they managed to find someone who has performed well in the past and signed him to a reasonable deal.

Alex Okafor, who spent his first four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, signed with the Saints Tuesday after some recruitment from New Orleans players, including his college teammate Kenny Vaccaro.

Okafor's contract resembles the one the Saints made for defensive tackle Nick Fairley last year. Like Fairley, Okafor has proven production on his resume -- 8 sacks in 2014 -- but comes to the Saints after a couple less impressive seasons.

Effectively, the 26-year-old Okafor signed a prove-it deal, one that will give him a chance to seek more money as a free agent in 2018 if he plays well. The same concept worked well for Fairley as he signed a four-year, $28 million deal last week after a strong performance in 2016.

Here are more details on Okafor's contract:
Signing bonus: $1 million
Total guarantee: $1 million
2017
Base salary: $935,000
Workout bonus: $65,000
Other bonus: Up to $1 million for playing time and sacks
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...rt_river_index

ScottF · 03-16-2017, 07:34 PM

that's the way every contract in the league should be written

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-16-2017, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

that's the way every contract in the league should be written

And exactly where would the rest of the money go?

The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53.

Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley.

NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are.

SFIAH

ScottF · 05-16-2017, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

And exactly where would the rest of the money go?

The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53.

Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley.

NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are.

SFIAH

performance incentives, roster expansion, increased pay for PS players, veterans benefits, and injury compensation

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-16-2017, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

And exactly where would the rest of the money go?

The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53.

Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley.

NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by ScottF

performance incentives, roster expansion, increased pay for PS players, veterans benefits, and injury compensation

Please explain exactly how any of these items are of more benefit to the actual players than the billions of dollars of lost income? Do you think that the owners are willing to do profit sharing to fund these activities?

Do you believe the average fan is willing to stand up for this? That's what it will take. Literally for millions of fans to stop watching football, stop going to the games, stop purchasing franchise items, and stop supporting any advertisers associated with NFL football. Only a legitimate threat of eliminating the funding of the NFL unless these changes are made would have any possible impact.

The bottom line is that none of the 4 principle stakeholders (owners, players, media, advertisers) have any incentive to make the kind of changes you propose.

So it seems like wishful thinking to me.

SFIAH

ScottF · 05-17-2017, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Please explain exactly how any of these items are of more benefit to the actual players than the billions of dollars of lost income? Do you think that the owners are willing to do profit sharing to fund these activities?

Do you believe the average fan is willing to stand up for this? That's what it will take. Literally for millions of fans to stop watching football, stop going to the games, stop purchasing franchise items, and stop supporting any advertisers associated with NFL football. Only a legitimate threat of eliminating the funding of the NFL unless these changes are made would have any possible impact.

The bottom line is that none of the 4 principle stakeholders (owners, players, media, advertisers) have any incentive to make the kind of changes you propose.

So it seems like wishful thinking to me.

SFIAH

Not sure what this has to do with the fans. The average fan believes players are overpaid and most fans would welcome a pay-for-performance structure. On a small scale the NFL already has a program for underpaid first year players for pay-for-performance.

How would roster expansion aid all 4 shareholder groups? First, 3 more roster spots means 100 more players making $500,000 a year. Expanding the roster means dressing 8 o-lineman instead of 7, or a third quarterback, or 4th running back. Roster expansion limits wear and tear on everyday players, and gives players who would not normally make a 46 man roster a chance to see the field.

spkb25 · 05-16-2017, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

that's the way every contract in the league should be written

yeah except when a player hs proven themselves the other teams are going to bid for their services and it wont work. This is good though, maybe he gets after it this year and is a bonus for us

foreverfan · 03-16-2017, 07:46 PM

Depends on how you choose to see it....

K Major · 05-15-2017, 08:55 PM

I think Alex gets 7 or more sacks in 2017.

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Beastmode · 05-15-2017, 09:35 PM

We learned some valuable lessons the hard way from being burned on numerous contracts.

03-16-2017, 07:13 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Josh Katzenstein, NOLA.com \| The Times-Picayune The New Orleans Saints didn't have many top-tier options as they scanned the free-agent market for a pass rusher, but they managed to find someone who has performed well in the past and signed him to a reasonable deal. Alex Okafor, who spent his first four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, signed with the Saints Tuesday after some recruitment from New Orleans players, including his college teammate Kenny Vaccaro. Okafor's contract resembles the one the Saints made for defensive tackle Nick Fairley last year. Like Fairley, Okafor has proven production on his resume -- 8 sacks in 2014 -- but comes to the Saints after a couple less impressive seasons. Effectively, the 26-year-old Okafor signed a prove-it deal, one that will give him a chance to seek more money as a free agent in 2018 if he plays well. The same concept worked well for Fairley as he signed a four-year, $28 million deal last week after a strong performance in 2016. Here are more details on Okafor's contract: Signing bonus: $1 million Total guarantee: $1 million 2017 Base salary: $935,000 Workout bonus: $65,000 Other bonus: Up to $1 million for playing time and sacks http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...rt_river_index jnormand and K Major like this.
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03-16-2017, 07:34 PM	#2
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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Originally Posted by ScottF that's the way every contract in the league should be written And exactly where would the rest of the money go? The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53. Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley. NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are. SFIAH
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL And exactly where would the rest of the money go? The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53. Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley. NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are. SFIAH performance incentives, roster expansion, increased pay for PS players, veterans benefits, and injury compensation

05-16-2017, 08:41 AM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL And exactly where would the rest of the money go? The CBA specifies that something like 48% of leagure revenues be paid out in player salaries. There is a reason that the salary cap has grown to nearly $160 million when the number of players remains at 53. Okafor got this contract because that's what currently the market bears. He does will, next year it may $7 million just like Fairley. NFL players and owners collectively get billions of dollars because that's what the market will bear. So that's why the salaries are the way that they are. SFIAH Originally Posted by ScottF performance incentives, roster expansion, increased pay for PS players, veterans benefits, and injury compensation Please explain exactly how any of these items are of more benefit to the actual players than the billions of dollars of lost income? Do you think that the owners are willing to do profit sharing to fund these activities? Do you believe the average fan is willing to stand up for this? That's what it will take. Literally for millions of fans to stop watching football, stop going to the games, stop purchasing franchise items, and stop supporting any advertisers associated with NFL football. Only a legitimate threat of eliminating the funding of the NFL unless these changes are made would have any possible impact. The bottom line is that none of the 4 principle stakeholders (owners, players, media, advertisers) have any incentive to make the kind of changes you propose. So it seems like wishful thinking to me. SFIAH
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05-17-2017, 07:10 AM	#6
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Please explain exactly how any of these items are of more benefit to the actual players than the billions of dollars of lost income? Do you think that the owners are willing to do profit sharing to fund these activities? Do you believe the average fan is willing to stand up for this? That's what it will take. Literally for millions of fans to stop watching football, stop going to the games, stop purchasing franchise items, and stop supporting any advertisers associated with NFL football. Only a legitimate threat of eliminating the funding of the NFL unless these changes are made would have any possible impact. The bottom line is that none of the 4 principle stakeholders (owners, players, media, advertisers) have any incentive to make the kind of changes you propose. So it seems like wishful thinking to me. SFIAH Not sure what this has to do with the fans. The average fan believes players are overpaid and most fans would welcome a pay-for-performance structure. On a small scale the NFL already has a program for underpaid first year players for pay-for-performance. How would roster expansion aid all 4 shareholder groups? First, 3 more roster spots means 100 more players making $500,000 a year. Expanding the roster means dressing 8 o-lineman instead of 7, or a third quarterback, or 4th running back. Roster expansion limits wear and tear on everyday players, and gives players who would not normally make a 46 man roster a chance to see the field. Seer1 likes this.

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