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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ScottF that's the way every contract in the league should be written yeah except when a player hs proven themselves the other teams are going to bid for their services and it wont work. This is good ...
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05-17-2017, 07:29 AM | #12 |
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
We really caught a convenient break signing Okafor; his contract allows us to transition quite nicely...
And if he does break out, we can always extend him with a smarter contract as we did with Fairley... |
05-17-2017, 08:10 AM | #13 |
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
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Not sure what this has to do with the fans. The average fan believes players are overpaid and most fans would welcome a pay-for-performance structure. On a small scale the NFL already has a program for underpaid first year players for pay-for-performance.
How would roster expansion aid all 4 shareholder groups? First, 3 more roster spots means 100 more players making $500,000 a year. Expanding the roster means dressing 8 o-lineman instead of 7, or a third quarterback, or 4th running back. Roster expansion limits wear and tear on everyday players, and gives players who would not normally make a 46 man roster a chance to see the field. |
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
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It has to do with the fans because only the fans think that players are overpaid as you just stated.
This whole angle seems to be driven from a feeling that players are overpaid and that guaranteed contract dollars makes players lazy and unproductive. Therefore each player should have 1 year prove it contracts with minimal dollars in order to keep them hungry. But it doesn't work because there is $5 billion a year to spend on player salaries and less that 2500 people eligible to receive those funds. Each team is required to spend 89% average of their cap. There's simply too much money to do what you propose. The NFL isn't a charity. Everyone who's in it is there for the money to some degree. So to me the proposal makes no sense because it in no way helps those who are supposed to fund it. SFIAH |
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
its the kind of contract that can rejuvenate a cats career , gets their mind on one thig and its get after it, i love it, if he bust out or bust bust we got a deal that won't carry for 5 years
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
again, first you asked "And exactly where would the rest of the money go?"
and now it is "There's simply too much money to do what you propose." |
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It has to do with the fans because only the fans think that players are overpaid as you just stated.
Once again, this only seems to improve things from a fans perspective. None of that helps the 53/46 man squad or the owners. Players want to maximize their income. Owners want to maximize their profits. What you propose helps neither group to do that. So why would either have any incentive to restructure this way?
This whole angle seems to be driven from a feeling that players are overpaid and that guaranteed contract dollars makes players lazy and unproductive. Therefore each player should have 1 year prove it contracts with minimal dollars in order to keep them hungry. But it doesn't work because there is $5 billion a year to spend on player salaries and less that 2500 people eligible to receive those funds. Each team is required to spend 89% average of their cap. There's simply too much money to do what you propose. The NFL isn't a charity. Everyone who's in it is there for the money to some degree. So to me the proposal makes no sense because it in no way helps those who are supposed to fund it. SFIAH
They are two sides of the same coin. If you cut player contracts then the saved money has to be spent elsewhere. There is too much money that has to be spent to cut those contracts. I just cannot understand why any stakeholder in the current system would want to take money and security out of their own pocket and give it to someone else. This is the reason that CBA negotiations are so tense and protracted as it is. I'll say it again: the NFL isn't a charity. players and owners first and foremost want to get paid for their services. So the altruistic idealism that these folks will put up funds into a collective pot "for the good of the game" just really seems farfetched. SFIAH |
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Re: Breaking down Saints defensive end Alex Okafor's one-year contract
He has talent when he's playing.....getting him on the field is the problem. Fingers crossed.
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