THE JOE HADEN WATCH

03-20-2017, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

But, you cannot ignore the fact that the rookie will most likely take two to three years to become that all pro, IF it ever happens at all. We are in win now mode with people trying to push Brees out the door. Whomever replaces him four years or so from now will very most likely be nothing more than average and that will guarantee more 7-9, or worse.

Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one.

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2017, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one.

Every chance? If that was true then EVERY one drafted would be Marcus Peters. No. There is a very small chance that any rookie CB will have a significant impact.

lee909 · 03-20-2017, 09:38 AM

1st Round CB past 5 years

Jalen Ramsey
Eli Apple
Vernon Hargreaves III
William Jackson III
Artie Burns
Trae Waynes
Kevin Johnson
Marcus Peters
Byron Jones
Justin Gilbert
Kyle Fuller CB
Darqueze Dennard
Jason Verrett
Bradley Roby
Dee Milliner
D. J. Hayden
Desmond Trufant
Xavier Rhodes
Morris Claiborne
Stephon Gilmore
Dre Kirkpatrick

K Major · 03-20-2017, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one.

Peters talent and skill set at the corner back position are rare at the NFL level.

Danno · 03-20-2017, 10:39 AM

Win now, spend what we must.

When Brees is gone then worry about overpaying key positions.

Euphoria · 03-20-2017, 11:41 AM

The problem with win now theory is that we have been up against the cap to much to be in a spending spree.

I think they learned a valuable lesson. Drafting is going to save you money and move players just before they are due big contracts. That is what the smart teams are doing.

I like what they started doing last season but we won't see the change for another year or two.

The only thing stopping us from getting to the SB again is a turn around on the defense and a few big plays on ST's.

K Major · 03-20-2017, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

The only thing stopping us from getting to the PLAYOFFS again is a turn around on the defense and a few big plays on ST's.

FIFY

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saintsfan1976 · 03-20-2017, 04:05 PM

We need a starting CB. Like yesterday. Drew is aging by the minute.

rezburna · 03-20-2017, 05:27 PM

Joe Haden is a top corner when healthy. If we can keep our 1st rounders for this year then we have to pull the trigger. It pushes CB down on our priority list so we can have the flexibility to address other needs.

Rugby Saint II · 03-20-2017, 05:41 PM

I Like the idea. It would be a good fit for us I think and we can afford it now. Now at least we have a couple of solid options that we are looking at in free agency before we get the draft

03-20-2017, 09:22 AM	#11
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido But, you cannot ignore the fact that the rookie will most likely take two to three years to become that all pro, IF it ever happens at all. We are in win now mode with people trying to push Brees out the door. Whomever replaces him four years or so from now will very most likely be nothing more than average and that will guarantee more 7-9, or worse. Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one.
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03-20-2017, 09:28 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH Originally Posted by dizzle88 Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one. Every chance? If that was true then EVERY one drafted would be Marcus Peters. No. There is a very small chance that any rookie CB will have a significant impact.

03-20-2017, 09:38 AM	#13
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH 1st Round CB past 5 years Jalen Ramsey Eli Apple Vernon Hargreaves III William Jackson III Artie Burns Trae Waynes Kevin Johnson Marcus Peters Byron Jones Justin Gilbert Kyle Fuller CB Darqueze Dennard Jason Verrett Bradley Roby Dee Milliner D. J. Hayden Desmond Trufant Xavier Rhodes Morris Claiborne Stephon Gilmore Dre Kirkpatrick

03-20-2017, 09:43 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH Originally Posted by dizzle88 Most of them do that's right, but there's every chance we get the next Marcus Peters if we draft one. Peters talent and skill set at the corner back position are rare at the NFL level.

03-20-2017, 10:39 AM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH Win now, spend what we must. When Brees is gone then worry about overpaying key positions. foreverfan likes this.

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03-20-2017, 11:41 AM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH The problem with win now theory is that we have been up against the cap to much to be in a spending spree. I think they learned a valuable lesson. Drafting is going to save you money and move players just before they are due big contracts. That is what the smart teams are doing. I like what they started doing last season but we won't see the change for another year or two. The only thing stopping us from getting to the SB again is a turn around on the defense and a few big plays on ST's.
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03-20-2017, 11:50 AM	#17
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH Originally Posted by Euphoria The only thing stopping us from getting to the PLAYOFFS again is a turn around on the defense and a few big plays on ST's. FIFY .

03-20-2017, 04:05 PM	#18
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH We need a starting CB. Like yesterday. Drew is aging by the minute.

03-20-2017, 05:27 PM	#19
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH Joe Haden is a top corner when healthy. If we can keep our 1st rounders for this year then we have to pull the trigger. It pushes CB down on our priority list so we can have the flexibility to address other needs.

03-20-2017, 05:41 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: THE JOE HADEN WATCH I Like the idea. It would be a good fit for us I think and we can afford it now. Now at least we have a couple of solid options that we are looking at in free agency before we get the draft

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