Another lb close to signing with saints

Euphoria · 03-21-2017, 06:54 AM

I think we are trying to rebuld the dome patrol

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:23 AM

Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic.

[soapbox]
And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone.
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burningmetal · 03-21-2017, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic.

[soapbox]
And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone.
[\soapbox]

Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing. Everybody makes mistakes, but it's not every day you hear that someone has faked the very existence of a person and gotten millions of people worked up about the "death" of said person. That's a little bit different from the norm.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing. Everybody makes mistakes, but it's not every day you hear that someone has faked the very existence of a person and gotten millions of people worked up about the "death" of said person. That's a little bit different from the norm.

I guess you didn't hear the whole story. Someone actually admitted to tricking him. He didn't make anything up. He was duped by someone. He was taken advantage of. The bad part is that even after he had to go through the initial shame, he is being forced to put up with the fact that many people, such as yourself, never did learn the real facts, or have chosen to ignore them for the pleasure of ridicule. I'm hoping that others around here are not second category. Humor is fine, but not at the expense of others. Then it simply becomes cruelty.

burningmetal · 03-21-2017, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I guess you didn't hear the whole story. Someone actually admitted to tricking him. He didn't make anything up. He was duped by someone. He was taken advantage of. The bad part is that even after he had to go through the initial shame, he is being forced to put up with the fact that many people, such as yourself, never did learn the real facts, or have chosen to ignore them for the pleasure of ridicule. I'm hoping that others around here are not second category. Humor is fine, but not at the expense of others. Then it simply becomes cruelty.

It's been a few years, and I don't remember every single detail, though yes, I do remember he got tricked. However, didn't he continue, after finding out the truth, to pretend that he had a girlfriend and then that she had died? And thought nobody would look into it?

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It's been a few years, and I don't remember every single detail, though yes, I do remember he got tricked. However, didn't he continue, after finding out the truth, to pretend that he had a girlfriend and then that she had died? And thought nobody would look into it?

No. He had been trying to meet the faked girl in person and was told by someone connected with the ruse that she had just died when they got backed into a corner. To make matters worse, it was on the same day as his own grandmother passed. The kid went through hell. I have nothing but respect for him that he has made it through that ridicule and has the strength to continue to live with the misconceptions still out there in the public. That tells me he is tough.

burningmetal · 03-21-2017, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. He had been trying to meet the faked girl in person and was told by someone connected with the ruse that she had just died when they got backed into a corner. To make matters worse, it was on the same day as his own grandmother passed. The kid went through hell. I have nothing but respect for him that he has made it through that ridicule and has the strength to continue to live with the misconceptions still out there in the public. That tells me he is tough.

I'm not trying to bring any undue ridicule upon him. I'm going with the reports that were out there. And Te'o, himself, couldn't get his own stories straight.

I just went and looked at some of what was said, to refresh my memory, and I see that Notre Dame's athletic director said that Te'o hadn't told Notre Dame until Dec 26th of that year, but Te'o told ESPN that his fake girlfriend (who was a guy, of course) revealed the hoax to him on the 6th. Yet, it was two days later, on the 8th, that he told some reporters that he had lost both his grandparents and his girlfriend to cancer.

He also had some flowery stories that he made up for the local newspaper in South Bend, when they interviewed him at some point, about how he "met" (in person, according to this story) this supposed girlfriend. He claimed he met "her" after a road loss at Stanford in November 2009.

I'm looking at a whole lot of inconsistency there. If you'd like to debunk any of that, I encourage you to do so. I have no axe to grind. But I can't look at all of that, and think that Te'o was just an innocent victim. It seems like he got punked and didn't want to admit it, and perpetuated the problem.

foreverfan · 03-21-2017, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic.

[soapbox]
And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone.
[\soapbox]

NonieT · 03-21-2017, 09:41 AM

The guy supposed to be a force against the run but terrible in coverge. I guess we'll see.

Papa Voodoo · 03-21-2017, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think we are trying to rebuld the dome patrol

Rickey Jackson does not approve of this message even if in jest

03-21-2017, 06:54 AM	#1
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03-21-2017, 07:23 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic. [soapbox] And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone. [\soapbox] canucksaint, hagan714, foreverfan and 1 others like this.

03-21-2017, 07:27 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic. [soapbox] And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone. [\soapbox] Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing. Everybody makes mistakes, but it's not every day you hear that someone has faked the very existence of a person and gotten millions of people worked up about the "death" of said person. That's a little bit different from the norm. foreverfan likes this.

03-21-2017, 07:34 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by burningmetal Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing. Everybody makes mistakes, but it's not every day you hear that someone has faked the very existence of a person and gotten millions of people worked up about the "death" of said person. That's a little bit different from the norm. I guess you didn't hear the whole story. Someone actually admitted to tricking him. He didn't make anything up. He was duped by someone. He was taken advantage of. The bad part is that even after he had to go through the initial shame, he is being forced to put up with the fact that many people, such as yourself, never did learn the real facts, or have chosen to ignore them for the pleasure of ridicule. I'm hoping that others around here are not second category. Humor is fine, but not at the expense of others. Then it simply becomes cruelty.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

03-21-2017, 07:49 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I guess you didn't hear the whole story. Someone actually admitted to tricking him. He didn't make anything up. He was duped by someone. He was taken advantage of. The bad part is that even after he had to go through the initial shame, he is being forced to put up with the fact that many people, such as yourself, never did learn the real facts, or have chosen to ignore them for the pleasure of ridicule. I'm hoping that others around here are not second category. Humor is fine, but not at the expense of others. Then it simply becomes cruelty. It's been a few years, and I don't remember every single detail, though yes, I do remember he got tricked. However, didn't he continue, after finding out the truth, to pretend that he had a girlfriend and then that she had died? And thought nobody would look into it?

03-21-2017, 07:55 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by burningmetal It's been a few years, and I don't remember every single detail, though yes, I do remember he got tricked. However, didn't he continue, after finding out the truth, to pretend that he had a girlfriend and then that she had died? And thought nobody would look into it? No. He had been trying to meet the faked girl in person and was told by someone connected with the ruse that she had just died when they got backed into a corner. To make matters worse, it was on the same day as his own grandmother passed. The kid went through hell. I have nothing but respect for him that he has made it through that ridicule and has the strength to continue to live with the misconceptions still out there in the public. That tells me he is tough. Beastmode likes this.

03-21-2017, 08:24 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. He had been trying to meet the faked girl in person and was told by someone connected with the ruse that she had just died when they got backed into a corner. To make matters worse, it was on the same day as his own grandmother passed. The kid went through hell. I have nothing but respect for him that he has made it through that ridicule and has the strength to continue to live with the misconceptions still out there in the public. That tells me he is tough. I'm not trying to bring any undue ridicule upon him. I'm going with the reports that were out there. And Te'o, himself, couldn't get his own stories straight. I just went and looked at some of what was said, to refresh my memory, and I see that Notre Dame's athletic director said that Te'o hadn't told Notre Dame until Dec 26th of that year, but Te'o told ESPN that his fake girlfriend (who was a guy, of course) revealed the hoax to him on the 6th. Yet, it was two days later, on the 8th, that he told some reporters that he had lost both his grandparents and his girlfriend to cancer. He also had some flowery stories that he made up for the local newspaper in South Bend, when they interviewed him at some point, about how he "met" (in person, according to this story) this supposed girlfriend. He claimed he met "her" after a road loss at Stanford in November 2009. I'm looking at a whole lot of inconsistency there. If you'd like to debunk any of that, I encourage you to do so. I have no axe to grind. But I can't look at all of that, and think that Te'o was just an innocent victim. It seems like he got punked and didn't want to admit it, and perpetuated the problem.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-21-2017, 09:37 AM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by burningmetal Having a sense of humor is not a bad thing. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why are people thinking we are bringing in starters? You don't bring in people to replace anyone in particular at this point. You bring in people to compete for roster spots in whatever capacity. If Te'o make the squad and contributes in a positive manner then fantastic. [soapbox] And, as long as he is a Saint, let's try to drop the ridicule. Being supportive is more constructive. I'm sure each of us has had something happen to us in our past that we would rather be left alone. [\soapbox] SmashMouth likes this.

03-21-2017, 09:41 AM	#9
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03-21-2017, 09:31 AM	#10
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Another lb close to signing with saints Originally Posted by Euphoria I think we are trying to rebuld the dome patrol Rickey Jackson does not approve of this message even if in jest foreverfan likes this.

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