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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; We just need to add someone to catch Fleener or Ginn Jr. Brees has never had a offense where not one player has the Colston or Graham factor. If you take a closer look at Thomas, he does not have ...
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We just need to add someone to catch Fleener or Ginn Jr. Brees has never had a offense where not one player has the Colston or Graham factor. If you take a closer look at Thomas, he does not have Cooks' speed and a lot of his runs were after the catch. That's not how a elite receiver operates.
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So your saying Thomas is not an elite receiver because he catches the ball and breaks tackles, gaining additonal yardage?![]()
Seriously, what are you smoking? Brandin Cooks as good as he was, could not break tackles and would fall over at the sight of contact. There's no question in my mind that Thomas will be much better than Cooks. |
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Thomas reminded me of number two guys last year like Decker and Sanders. Those receivers could not stand alone as number ones. I don't see Thomas as a number one. I have seen Colston in his prime catch deep TD passes. Thomas has not shown that yet. I just don't see it. He was fine where he was but I don't see Thomas in the same league as Brown, Jones, ODB, Green. He's not even Evans, Allen, and Watkins.![]()
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81
Firstly, it was Thomas' rookie season, so regardless you'd have to give him more time.![]()
Secondly, Thomas broke all of Colstons rookie records Is it Thomas' fault that as per Payton's play calling, Thomas was not designated to run many deep routes. It was obvious Payton liked his ability to work the crossing patterns and break tackles so he got him working to his strengths. Antonio Brown for instance didn't become the player he is now until his 4th year in the league. Watch Michael Thomas in his rookie highlights completely out-muscle the DB's he faces and it's impossible to deny he looks like a special talent. |
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That's because Colston was hurt in 2006! |
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If you're going to do stuff like that you better come up with the reasons why. As someone who plays FF and was tracking players like Brown, you know nothing about how the steelers treat their receivers.![]()
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I know nothing about the Steelers, you are quite correct, but didn't you say mid season you were "done supporting the saints" and you honestly think that a receiver who caught one pass all season, is better for us than one who catches 80+ passes. Fail.
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Who was the QB for Minnesota? Who quit on the vikings because their offense didn't paint him in a good light? Treadwell came to a mess.
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81
I'm curious how you came to that conclusion.![]()
Thomas was top ten in all receiving stats, including +20yard plays. 2016 NFL Player Receiving Stats - National Football League - ESPN He had the second highest number catches of any receiver in the history of the NFL. He ranked #2 in FootballOutsiders.com DYAR rankings #2 in DVOA 2nd in catch percentage. 2nd in Yards After Reception http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr Statistically speaking he was one of the best receivers in the league last year. I think without Cooks in the lineup, Thomas will be a top 5 receiver in almost every category next season. Why do you think he's not a number 1 receiver? |
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