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LKelley67 03-23-2005 11:20 AM

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Howard update

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said he is getting the cold shoulder from the Cowboys concerning trade talks for New Orleans defensive end Darren Howard. But Jerry Jones said the team remains interested.

"We just haven't been able to come to any agreement on compensation, which isn't unusual," Jones said.

The Cowboys have no interest in trading either of their first-round draft picks -- No. 11 and No. 20 -- or linebacker Dat Nguyen.

The Saints used the franchise tag on Howard, guaranteeing him $7.8 million this season, but New Orleans has been working to trade the five-year veteran who had 11 sacks last season and has 41 in his career.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/11208593.htm


4saintspirit 03-23-2005 11:30 AM

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Then I would give the cold shoulder to the Cowboys -- I would seriously talk to other teams (the redskins for example). Being in the same division that may start the discussions back up

LKelley67 03-23-2005 12:28 PM

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vikings and seahags still in the mix supposedly

GumboBC 03-23-2005 12:31 PM

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Who cares about the Howard trade?

Four years of losing and I ain\'t expecting nothing to change.

You think getting ONE player is going to improve this team?

Might as well keep Howard and hopefully we will lose enough games and we\'ll have the number 1 pick in next year\'s draft.

That\'s the only way this team is going to get better. Foget the playoffs ... we need to lose so Loomis and Haslett will get fired then we can draft a QB with the first pick.



[Edited on 23/3/2005 by GumboBC]

shadowdrinker 03-23-2005 12:34 PM

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The Browns have shown interest as well...

I think it\'s now a forced issue..we need to trade him now...waiting till the draft is just too risky in my opinion...

With only 30 days left till the Draft, it is really coming down to the wire...

Maybe Howard and a 2nd round pick could net us a 1st round pick?

It doesn\'t seem too far fetched to me...

saintsfan1313 03-23-2005 12:35 PM

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Wow Gumbo, sounds like the Negativity storm is in your area today

GoldenTomb 03-23-2005 12:36 PM

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NOW you\'re talking Gumbo! :)

saintswhodi 03-23-2005 12:40 PM

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If this is the new Gumbo, I LIKE IT!!!!! :dance:

LKelley67 03-23-2005 12:40 PM

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i guess it takes that much for gumbo to come to a balanced outlook. ya need a little more work on it billy but it is a step in the right direction. LOL

WhoDat 03-23-2005 01:17 PM

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Then I would give the cold shoulder to the Cowboys -- I would seriously talk to other teams (the redskins for example). Being in the same division that may start the discussions back up
Absolutely. Dallas is putting pressure on the Saints by essentially saying, \"We don\'t think Howard is worth what you\'re asking, so go ahead an keep him and his big cap hit.\"

The Saints should do the same, essentially saying, \"Fine. I thought we were close, but I guess we\'ll just trade him to your division rival instead. Hope Bledsoe learns how to scramble this offseason!\"

Danno 03-23-2005 01:35 PM

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Then I would give the cold shoulder to the Cowboys -- I would seriously talk to other teams (the redskins for example). Being in the same division that may start the discussions back up
Absolutely. Dallas is putting pressure on the Saints by essentially saying, \"We don\'t think Howard is worth what you\'re asking, so go ahead an keep him and his big cap hit.\"

The Saints should do the same, essentially saying, \"Fine. I thought we were close, but I guess we\'ll just trade him to your division rival instead. Hope Bledsoe learns how to scramble this offseason!\"
Yep, lets see if Washington or New York or Philly would like a high quality DE. I like it. i don\'t think lil Danny Boy would have any trouble shelling out a pick or two.

Imagine the Statue versus Strahan and Howard. OUCH!

Ya see Jerry, the upside of keeping Howard greatly outweighs the downside. Its simply convenient for us to shop him. We are in no hurry lizard face.

baronm 03-23-2005 02:36 PM

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I think it\'s more like parcells knows that with a good linebacker AND a pick we coudl getr much better fast...much more than the will with howard.

FireVenturi 03-23-2005 03:36 PM

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Forget the cowgirls....there are other teams that would be interested

BlackandBlue 03-23-2005 03:39 PM

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Must be too busy posing for Lucky Charm ads.

daniel 03-23-2005 07:28 PM

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The only reason I want to see the trade happen is to free up some cap money to get deals done with other player. I still like DH bc he is a great player but no team really needs three DE\'s. Now that being said, if we do trade him and one of our guys goes down with a injury we will all be back here saying, we should not have gotten rid of him.

zachsaints52 03-23-2005 08:02 PM

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I think Willie Whitehead could spot start, and maybe do decent as a back up. I think our second plus howard get us a top 15 pick, being that 2nd is right at the beginning of the second round. if not, than howard and a 3rd for a lower 1st. I like howard too, but with your back-up putting up some really good numbers (including led league in forced fumbles) I think its time to part with DH.


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