Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11

jeanpierre · 04-17-2017, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Since he's not going at 11, no worries then. The only player at 11 that is a solid sure thing is OJ, players like Foster, Barnett and I'll even throw Peppers in there, you hoping for the best but each of those have potential. So do we draft a sure thing or a player with potential at 11?

OJ is no sure thing. One season and he was never gonna learn the full route tree nor have prolific numbers in a Nick Saban offense...

With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust...

Look at last year's draft, we were talking about two D-linemen going in the Top 15 and they were lucky they got picked by the end of the second round...

Nick's got a proven system for Nick and Bama's success, not necessarily developing NFL prospects, Bama's NFL prospects were NFL prospects before they stepped foot on campus...

K Major · 04-17-2017, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust...

IDK JP,

Over the last few years, I've seen quite a few Bama players make an impact at the elite level. Specifically on defense.

AsylumGuido · 04-17-2017, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

IDK JP,

Over the last few years, I've seen quite a few Bama players make an impact at the elite level. Specifically on defense.

I think that's what he was saying. All or nothing. For every one that makes elite impact there is one that was supposed to make that sort of impact but fizzled out. No way to tell until they are under fire in the league.

halloween 65 · 04-17-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

OJ is no sure thing. One season and he was never gonna learn the full route tree nor have prolific numbers in a Nick Saban offense...

With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust...

Look at last year's draft, we were talking about two D-linemen going in the Top 15 and they were lucky they got picked by the end of the second round...

Nick's got a proven system for Nick and Bama's success, not necessarily developing NFL prospects, Bama's NFL prospects were NFL prospects before they stepped foot on campus...

I totally disagree about OJ not being a sure thing with the type of O Payton has set up. He becomes an immediate red zone threat and can due it all, block, catch , runs good routes, has speed and has size. Perfect compliment for the O if you ask me.Fleener and his contract could be history next season with this pick at #11 and the O becomes a quick strike O again and in the 3rd go after Mixon and it's a O that is feared again. I also would take the Ole Miss qb. in the 5th to groom.

hagan714 · 04-17-2017, 06:23 PM

OJ accepted every off season invite despite being a top 20 pick and did one thing. Answered every possible doubter out there about his abilities. He has gone from an excellent TE with questionable upside receiving skill due to coming out of Bama to probably the best receiver in the draft.

I do not know what more he could have done.

K Major · 04-17-2017, 07:56 PM

Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery

ChrisXVI · 04-17-2017, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery

Oh man... This is the first I've seen of this. Foster was my #1 dream pick but this might be just a little too much.

lee909 · 04-18-2017, 02:09 AM

I think ive found maybebthe worst mock draft ive seen.

Step forward PFF

11. New Orleans Saints
Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU

White bounced back from a subpar 2014 season to post the top overall grade among cornerbacks at 90.5. He broke up 12 passes, good for third in the nation, while showing the skills to cover both on the outside or in the slot. The Saints simply have to add talent to their defense, and White is a strong, versatile option

Leaving Adams and Solomon Thomas on the table

32. New Orleans Saints (from New England Patriots)
David Njoku, TE, Miami

The Saints add another weapon for QB Drew Brees as Njoku brings wide receiver-like skills to tight end. He averaged 11.2 yards after the catch per reception last season while ranking third in the draft class with 200 yards on deep (20-plus yards) receptions.

42. New Orleans Saints
Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State

The Saints double-dip at the cornerback position, this time adding Conley, who brings good size and movement skills. He can play press or off coverage, allowing a nation-low passer rating of 13.6 into his coverage, and while there was certainly some luck involved in that number, he adds another playmaker on the back end of a revamped New Orleans defense.

76. New Orleans Saints
Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, Ohio State

Samuel needs an offense that will take advantage of his skills as both a runner and as a receiver, and what better place than New Orleans? He’ll play in the slot where he can run smooth routes at the short an intermediate level while keeping defenses off balance just enough with some work out of the backfield, much like he did at Ohio State.

103. New Orleans Saints (compensatory pick)
Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky

More weapons for QB Drew Brees, this time in the form of Taylor, who brings solid outside route-running that helped him rank third in the draft class with 3.92 yards per route run in 2016.

jeanpierre · 04-18-2017, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Oh man... This is the first I've seen of this. Foster was my #1 dream pick but this might be just a little too much.

See, knew something wasn't right about that scene at the hospital...

I'm in the oil patch and with friends who own and run a drug testing facility; we see guys throw a scene at the last minute prior to testing - to avoid the test...

This is why I've been saying there needs to be a longer look at the medicals...

I'll be the first to tell you we don't know what really happened in Indy, but the fact those medicals were still needed and not done is why I've pulled back on Foster...

And if you've been on this site for a few years, you know I bang the drum every year for linebackers like Foster...

Foster should be a man-crush for me, but my instincts told me closer scrutiny was warranted with regards to this shoulder injury...

Plus, Foster has a real shady agent; well, REAL shady for an agent; and he seems to be panicking with his twitter account instead of playing it cool...

jeanpierre · 04-18-2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I think ive found maybebthe worst mock draft ive seen.

Step forward PFF

11. New Orleans Saints
Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU

White bounced back from a subpar 2014 season to post the top overall grade among cornerbacks at 90.5. He broke up 12 passes, good for third in the nation, while showing the skills to cover both on the outside or in the slot. The Saints simply have to add talent to their defense, and White is a strong, versatile option

Leaving Adams and Solomon Thomas on the table

32. New Orleans Saints (from New England Patriots)
David Njoku, TE, Miami

The Saints add another weapon for QB Drew Brees as Njoku brings wide receiver-like skills to tight end. He averaged 11.2 yards after the catch per reception last season while ranking third in the draft class with 200 yards on deep (20-plus yards) receptions.

42. New Orleans Saints
Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State

The Saints double-dip at the cornerback position, this time adding Conley, who brings good size and movement skills. He can play press or off coverage, allowing a nation-low passer rating of 13.6 into his coverage, and while there was certainly some luck involved in that number, he adds another playmaker on the back end of a revamped New Orleans defense.

76. New Orleans Saints
Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, Ohio State

Samuel needs an offense that will take advantage of his skills as both a runner and as a receiver, and what better place than New Orleans? He’ll play in the slot where he can run smooth routes at the short an intermediate level while keeping defenses off balance just enough with some work out of the backfield, much like he did at Ohio State.

103. New Orleans Saints (compensatory pick)
Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky

More weapons for QB Drew Brees, this time in the form of Taylor, who brings solid outside route-running that helped him rank third in the draft class with 3.92 yards per route run in 2016.

I know one thing, while I'm from Louisiana and I'll pull for State, I don't feel we have to have LSU players on the Saints...

But we've reached our quota of Buckeyes as far as I'm concerned...

And Gareon Conley is likely to go before Tre White...And WTF is the Defensive End reinforcements?

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DE Derek Barnett	13	30.23%
RB Leonard Fournette	2	4.65%
LB Reuben Foster	18	41.86%
SS Jamal Adams	1	2.33%
RB Christian McCaffrey	2	4.65%
DE Taco Charlton	4	9.30%
Other (List in Comments)	3	6.98%
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04-17-2017, 07:11 AM	#141
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by halloween 65 Since he's not going at 11, no worries then. The only player at 11 that is a solid sure thing is OJ, players like Foster, Barnett and I'll even throw Peppers in there, you hoping for the best but each of those have potential. So do we draft a sure thing or a player with potential at 11? OJ is no sure thing. One season and he was never gonna learn the full route tree nor have prolific numbers in a Nick Saban offense... With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust... Look at last year's draft, we were talking about two D-linemen going in the Top 15 and they were lucky they got picked by the end of the second round... Nick's got a proven system for Nick and Bama's success, not necessarily developing NFL prospects, Bama's NFL prospects were NFL prospects before they stepped foot on campus...
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04-17-2017, 09:17 AM	#142
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,623 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by jeanpierre With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust... IDK JP, Over the last few years, I've seen quite a few Bama players make an impact at the elite level. Specifically on defense. halloween 65 likes this.

04-17-2017, 09:54 AM	#143
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by K Major IDK JP, Over the last few years, I've seen quite a few Bama players make an impact at the elite level. Specifically on defense. I think that's what he was saying. All or nothing. For every one that makes elite impact there is one that was supposed to make that sort of impact but fizzled out. No way to tell until they are under fire in the league.

04-17-2017, 04:32 PM	#144
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by jeanpierre OJ is no sure thing. One season and he was never gonna learn the full route tree nor have prolific numbers in a Nick Saban offense... With Bama players it's definitely a 50-50 boom or bust... Look at last year's draft, we were talking about two D-linemen going in the Top 15 and they were lucky they got picked by the end of the second round... Nick's got a proven system for Nick and Bama's success, not necessarily developing NFL prospects, Bama's NFL prospects were NFL prospects before they stepped foot on campus... I totally disagree about OJ not being a sure thing with the type of O Payton has set up. He becomes an immediate red zone threat and can due it all, block, catch , runs good routes, has speed and has size. Perfect compliment for the O if you ask me.Fleener and his contract could be history next season with this pick at #11 and the O becomes a quick strike O again and in the 3rd go after Mixon and it's a O that is feared again. I also would take the Ole Miss qb. in the 5th to groom.

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04-17-2017, 06:23 PM	#145
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 OJ accepted every off season invite despite being a top 20 pick and did one thing. Answered every possible doubter out there about his abilities. He has gone from an excellent TE with questionable upside receiving skill due to coming out of Bama to probably the best receiver in the draft. I do not know what more he could have done.

04-17-2017, 07:56 PM	#146
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,623 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft. http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by K Major Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft. http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery Oh man... This is the first I've seen of this. Foster was my #1 dream pick but this might be just a little too much.

04-18-2017, 02:09 AM	#148
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,829 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 I think ive found maybebthe worst mock draft ive seen. Step forward PFF 11. New Orleans Saints Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU White bounced back from a subpar 2014 season to post the top overall grade among cornerbacks at 90.5. He broke up 12 passes, good for third in the nation, while showing the skills to cover both on the outside or in the slot. The Saints simply have to add talent to their defense, and White is a strong, versatile option Leaving Adams and Solomon Thomas on the table 32. New Orleans Saints (from New England Patriots) David Njoku, TE, Miami The Saints add another weapon for QB Drew Brees as Njoku brings wide receiver-like skills to tight end. He averaged 11.2 yards after the catch per reception last season while ranking third in the draft class with 200 yards on deep (20-plus yards) receptions. 42. New Orleans Saints Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State The Saints double-dip at the cornerback position, this time adding Conley, who brings good size and movement skills. He can play press or off coverage, allowing a nation-low passer rating of 13.6 into his coverage, and while there was certainly some luck involved in that number, he adds another playmaker on the back end of a revamped New Orleans defense. 76. New Orleans Saints Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, Ohio State Samuel needs an offense that will take advantage of his skills as both a runner and as a receiver, and what better place than New Orleans? He’ll play in the slot where he can run smooth routes at the short an intermediate level while keeping defenses off balance just enough with some work out of the backfield, much like he did at Ohio State. 103. New Orleans Saints (compensatory pick) Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky More weapons for QB Drew Brees, this time in the form of Taylor, who brings solid outside route-running that helped him rank third in the draft class with 3.92 yards per route run in 2016.
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04-18-2017, 04:33 AM	#149
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by K Major Reuben Foster may need second surgery on shoulder. If reports are accurate, he'll drop down considerably in the upcoming draft. http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...nother-surgery Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Oh man... This is the first I've seen of this. Foster was my #1 dream pick but this might be just a little too much. See, knew something wasn't right about that scene at the hospital... I'm in the oil patch and with friends who own and run a drug testing facility; we see guys throw a scene at the last minute prior to testing - to avoid the test... This is why I've been saying there needs to be a longer look at the medicals... I'll be the first to tell you we don't know what really happened in Indy, but the fact those medicals were still needed and not done is why I've pulled back on Foster... And if you've been on this site for a few years, you know I bang the drum every year for linebackers like Foster... Foster should be a man-crush for me, but my instincts told me closer scrutiny was warranted with regards to this shoulder injury... Plus, Foster has a real shady agent; well, *REAL* shady for an agent; and he seems to be panicking with his twitter account instead of playing it cool... ChrisXVI likes this.
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04-18-2017, 12:44 PM	#150
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by lee909 I think ive found maybebthe worst mock draft ive seen. Step forward PFF 11. New Orleans Saints Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU White bounced back from a subpar 2014 season to post the top overall grade among cornerbacks at 90.5. He broke up 12 passes, good for third in the nation, while showing the skills to cover both on the outside or in the slot. The Saints simply have to add talent to their defense, and White is a strong, versatile option Leaving Adams and Solomon Thomas on the table 32. New Orleans Saints (from New England Patriots) David Njoku, TE, Miami The Saints add another weapon for QB Drew Brees as Njoku brings wide receiver-like skills to tight end. He averaged 11.2 yards after the catch per reception last season while ranking third in the draft class with 200 yards on deep (20-plus yards) receptions. 42. New Orleans Saints Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State The Saints double-dip at the cornerback position, this time adding Conley, who brings good size and movement skills. He can play press or off coverage, allowing a nation-low passer rating of 13.6 into his coverage, and while there was certainly some luck involved in that number, he adds another playmaker on the back end of a revamped New Orleans defense. 76. New Orleans Saints Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, Ohio State Samuel needs an offense that will take advantage of his skills as both a runner and as a receiver, and what better place than New Orleans? He’ll play in the slot where he can run smooth routes at the short an intermediate level while keeping defenses off balance just enough with some work out of the backfield, much like he did at Ohio State. 103. New Orleans Saints (compensatory pick) Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky More weapons for QB Drew Brees, this time in the form of Taylor, who brings solid outside route-running that helped him rank third in the draft class with 3.92 yards per route run in 2016. I know one thing, while I'm from Louisiana and I'll pull for State, I don't feel we have to have LSU players on the Saints... But we've reached our quota of Buckeyes as far as I'm concerned... And Gareon Conley is likely to go before Tre White...And WTF is the Defensive End reinforcements?

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