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Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre The running game has lots of room for improvement as it was only 16th in the NFL in RuYd/game (19th in attempts)... Oh goodness. Now you are channeling my brother, who consistently makes these same arguments. ...

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Old 04-16-2017, 10:36 AM   #10
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Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The running game has lots of room for improvement as it was only 16th in the NFL in RuYd/game (19th in attempts)...
Oh goodness. Now you are channeling my brother, who consistently makes these same arguments. I'll give the same response here that I give to him: Running the football isn't in the Payton/Carmichael/Brees offensive DNA. As much as the three give lip service to wanting to run the ball, their actions belie that lip service.

You can see that in Ingram's running efficiency. 1043 yards in a little over 200 carries for a 5.1 YPC. That's why are 16th in yd/gm while 19th in attempts.

Having a better running game would allow us to improve our Time of Possession, and that limits the exposure of the defense...

Logic continues that limiting the exposure of the defense translates to fewer allowed yardage and opposing scoring opportunities...
All true. Except Payton, Brees and company are simply not going to do it. We have 10 seasons of evidence. In that span there were 2 1000+ yard rushers, and 2 with more than 200 attempts in a season.

So while logically it makes sense to run the ball, it's not going to happen.
Haven't been the biggest Ingram fan since we drafted him in the first round using a first and a second round pick to acquire him...

And it only took him nearly five years to actually have an impact in the Saints offensive scheme...

But to hang it all on Ingram is erroneous at best as we were only 19th in rushing attempts last season...
Exactly. Ingram has become a productive, efficient, all around back. The team has already invested the draft picks and the extension dollars to get him to this point. So to me, throwing him aside and trying to slot someone new is nonsensical.
Not to mention that we were running a 3-guard rotation to keep Jahri Evans fresh and Peat was having to play LT...

I do believe Payton needs a complimentary RB, and McCaffrey looks to be the ideal choice in this draft...
FIFY. But note that even if the Saints took McCaffery, it would not improve the running game. Payton would take his new toy and shuffle him in the backfield, the slot, and out wide. He would swing passes to him in the flat, and throw PT type screens to him. He would be as much a running back in this offense as Reggie Bush was. And absolutely none of those rushing numbers you quoted at the top would change, because as I stated it's not in the Saints offensive DNA to do so.
But we also could use another young guard in addition to the Warford FA signing, a Grubbs salve signing for failing on Zeitler...
But at what cost? Spend a #32 or #42 on a guy that won't likely start on an offense that may need the depth, but really isn't a position of need?
The team did a solid job of shoring up the roster Pre-Draft; and as deep as this draft is, we have options with our first five picks...
Of course with the Saints draft DNA, they will exercise those options. In each of the last three years the Saints have taken an offensive player in one of the first 2 rounds. So I know my hope that they will stock up on defensive talent that can be brought in and coached up so that the defense can function as and effective standalone unit in the seasons to come is completely unrealistic.

So if we took McCaffrey with the 11th pick, I wouldn't panic or blink unless we didn't have an add'l DE after pick 76...
I would flip out if players like Barnett or Foster were on the board at 11.

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