2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line

K Major · 04-02-2017, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Got a strong feeling it'll be Taco Charlton acrossed from Jordan. He's not my choice, but it sounds like that's the direction we're leaning.

God I hope not. His body of work is pretty average. I just don't see any justification for "Taco" to be selected @ 20 much less #11 by the Saints.
Having long arms and height won't win you one on one battles at the elite level.

Hopefully the Saints pass on Taco Bueno.

halloween 65 · 04-02-2017, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Got a strong feeling it'll be Taco Charlton acrossed from Jordan. He's not my choice, but it sounds like that's the direction we're leaning.

I like McDowell in the 2nd over Taco at pick #11, McDowell had a overall better body of work.

jeanpierre · 04-03-2017, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

God I hope not. His body of work is pretty average. I just don't see any justification for "Taco" to be selected @ 20 much less #11 by the Saints.
Having long arms and height won't win you one on one battles at the elite level.

Hopefully the Saints pass on Taco Bueno.

Uh yeah, Major, having height and long arms will definitely give you an advantage, especially at end...

I'd move back a little for Charlton, but he did only have one year in a 4-3 and that's when his production soared...

K Major · 04-03-2017, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Uh yeah, Major, having height and long arms will definitely give you an advantage, especially at end...

I'd move back a little for Charlton, but he did only have one year in a 4-3 and that's when his production soared...

I don't see anything special about Charlton but that's just me. I'd prefer Barnett or a guy like McKinley who has a non stop motor. Re watched a couple of Michigan games in their entirety and there were times where he was invisible. I see a guy who is inconsistent in his effort & limited with pass rush moves. Not what you want with your first pick. If you want a pure pass rusher similar to Junior, take Takkarist. Some players are safer bets than others, that is why game tape is so important. At the end of the day, I'm not impressed.

jeanpierre · 04-04-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I don't see anything special about Charlton but that's just me. I'd prefer Barnett or a guy like McKinley who has a non stop motor. Re watched a couple of Michigan games in their entirety and there were times where he was invisible. I see a guy who is inconsistent in his effort & limited with pass rush moves. Not what you want with your first pick. If you want a pure pass rusher similar to Junior, take Takkarist. Some players are safer bets than others, that is why game tape is so important. At the end of the day, I'm not impressed.

Barnett's sparq scores were awful. Now, I'm one of the first to tell you to look at the tape, but it's clear that he's reached his ceiling.

All throughout the leadup to the draft, Barnett has been "toughing it out" with this ailment or that ailment, when the truth is, he's not a good athlete...

Admire him for his skill and college production, but he's gonna be a big bust when he gets to the NFL; sort of like Weurffel was at the QB position...

I'm cautiously optimistic about Charlton because when Michigan went to the 4-3 front, his production took off; so that's why I give him the benefit of the doubt as a one year wonder...

Cam Jordan is as small a DE I'd want in a 4-3 front; in fact, having Sheldon Rankins undersized already, I'd be cautious about having too many undersized guys, regardless of college production...

Rugby Saint II · 04-09-2017, 04:25 PM

Depending on what round we pick RB we need to invest a high pick on DE. There will be several pass rushers still available.

04-02-2017, 09:58 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Got a strong feeling it'll be Taco Charlton acrossed from Jordan. He's not my choice, but it sounds like that's the direction we're leaning. God I hope not. His body of work is pretty average. I just don't see any justification for "Taco" to be selected @ 20 much less #11 by the Saints. Having long arms and height won't win you one on one battles at the elite level. Hopefully the Saints pass on Taco Bueno. jnormand, WillMacKenzie and ChrisXVI like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Got a strong feeling it'll be Taco Charlton acrossed from Jordan. He's not my choice, but it sounds like that's the direction we're leaning. I like McDowell in the 2nd over Taco at pick #11, McDowell had a overall better body of work.

04-03-2017, 08:36 AM	#23
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line Originally Posted by K Major God I hope not. His body of work is pretty average. I just don't see any justification for "Taco" to be selected @ 20 much less #11 by the Saints. Having long arms and height won't win you one on one battles at the elite level. Hopefully the Saints pass on Taco Bueno. Uh yeah, Major, having height and long arms will definitely give you an advantage, especially at end... I'd move back a little for Charlton, but he did only have one year in a 4-3 and that's when his production soared...

04-03-2017, 09:19 AM	#24
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line Originally Posted by jeanpierre Uh yeah, Major, having height and long arms will definitely give you an advantage, especially at end... I'd move back a little for Charlton, but he did only have one year in a 4-3 and that's when his production soared... I don't see anything special about Charlton but that's just me. I'd prefer Barnett or a guy like McKinley who has a non stop motor. Re watched a couple of Michigan games in their entirety and there were times where he was invisible. I see a guy who is inconsistent in his effort & limited with pass rush moves. Not what you want with your first pick. If you want a pure pass rusher similar to Junior, take Takkarist. Some players are safer bets than others, that is why game tape is so important. At the end of the day, I'm not impressed. Seer1 likes this.
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04-04-2017, 04:36 PM	#25
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Defensive Line Originally Posted by K Major I don't see anything special about Charlton but that's just me. I'd prefer Barnett or a guy like McKinley who has a non stop motor. Re watched a couple of Michigan games in their entirety and there were times where he was invisible. I see a guy who is inconsistent in his effort & limited with pass rush moves. Not what you want with your first pick. If you want a pure pass rusher similar to Junior, take Takkarist. Some players are safer bets than others, that is why game tape is so important. At the end of the day, I'm not impressed. Barnett's sparq scores were awful. Now, I'm one of the first to tell you to look at the tape, but it's clear that he's reached his ceiling. All throughout the leadup to the draft, Barnett has been "toughing it out" with this ailment or that ailment, when the truth is, he's not a good athlete... Admire him for his skill and college production, but he's gonna be a big bust when he gets to the NFL; sort of like Weurffel was at the QB position... I'm cautiously optimistic about Charlton because when Michigan went to the 4-3 front, his production took off; so that's why I give him the benefit of the doubt as a one year wonder... Cam Jordan is as small a DE I'd want in a 4-3 front; in fact, having Sheldon Rankins undersized already, I'd be cautious about having too many undersized guys, regardless of college production...
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