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K Major 04-04-2017 04:52 PM

Jeff Duncan's 2017 Saints Mock Draft 4.0
 
Jeff's latest "mock" report.

Jeff Duncan's 2017 Saints Mock Draft 4.0 | NOLA.com

|Mitch| 04-04-2017 05:00 PM

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I wouldn't be overly disappointed if we drafted just like that :bng:

Danno 04-04-2017 06:04 PM

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I love most of it, except some of it.

ChrisXVI 04-04-2017 06:12 PM

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Not too bad. Davis Webb could sneak into the 1st round/high 2nd round though and I'm not into Eddie Jackson but otherwise pretty solid.

Seer1 04-04-2017 06:22 PM

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I like the idea of picking up Samuel for our third. That kid is everything we allegedly lost with Cooks plus some. I want to beat him with a big, stout stick for mentioning drafting a QB though. I mean just because we'll eventually need one, that doesn't say we have to pick the best of a ****ty lot this year. Reminds me too much of how my ex-wife used to shop.

rezburna 04-04-2017 06:28 PM

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I'd be completely fine with this draft.

foreverfan 04-04-2017 06:54 PM

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Round 2 (42): WR-RB Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
This guy is a TD waiting to happen....


hagan714 04-05-2017 05:53 AM

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Not bad at all. he is getting better.

I am still not sold on Derek Barnett ability to stop the run. But i kinda expect him high on the saints list


Worries me
Jalen Reeves-Maybin I am gun shy off for some reason even ignoring med red flags

Jerry Ugokwe OT William & Mary 6072 321 5.61 #78 rSr
Arms 35 3/8 hands 10
The measurements are all there

Its the Ten split 1.94. 20 Shuttle 5.17, and 3 cone 8.34 that worries me a bit. These freaking 6'7" OT fail more often than not. It seems there is a basic height cap for OT

But in all I could accept it. rate it a C+

ChrisXVI 04-06-2017 08:45 AM

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Larry Holder's latest mock:

Round 1 (No. 11 overall): DE Derek Barnett, Tennessee
Round 1 (No. 32): Trade for CB Malcolm Butler, New England
Round 2 (No. 42): CB Quincy Wilson, Florida
Round 3 (No. 76): S Marcus Williams, Utah
Round 3 (No. 103): G Danny Isidora, Miami (Fla.)
Round 6 (No. 196): RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette
Round 7 (No. 229): DE Tashawn Bower, LSU

Here's the link if you want to see his reasoning for each pick: Larry Holder's 2017 Saints Mock Draft 4.0 | NOLA.com

Utah_Saint 04-06-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 743959)
Larry Holder's latest mock:

Round 1 (No. 11 overall): DE Derek Barnett, Tennessee
Round 1 (No. 32): Trade for CB Malcolm Butler, New England
Round 2 (No. 42): CB Quincy Wilson, Florida
Round 3 (No. 76): S Marcus Williams, Utah
Round 3 (No. 103): G Danny Isidora, Miami (Fla.)
Round 6 (No. 196): RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette
Round 7 (No. 229): DE Tashawn Bower, LSU

Here's the link if you want to see his reasoning for each pick: Larry Holder's 2017 Saints Mock Draft 4.0 | NOLA.com

I'd be happy with that draft.

Seer1 04-06-2017 12:15 PM

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I'd still love to see Samuel come our way, along with a boatload of badassed defensive players.

rezburna 04-06-2017 01:25 PM

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I'm pretty sure we're going to take Joe Mixon in the 2nd or 3rd round now.

CheramieIII 04-06-2017 01:43 PM

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I am not saying anything other than compare my draft which has been out for a while and Jeff's?

Cheramie’s Draft
1a. Derek Barnett, DE, Tennesee
1b. Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

#32a Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA
#32b Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech

2a. Adoree Jackson, CB/KR, USC
2b. DeMarcus Walker, DE/DT, Florida State

3a. Davis Webb, QB, California
3b. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

4a. Pat Elflein, C/G, Ohio State
4b. Kendell Beckwith, LB, LSU

6a. Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy
6b. Javarius Leamon, OT, South Carolina State

7a. Caleb Peterson, G, North Carolina
7b. Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida


Mine was created when the trade happened. It's great to know that Jeff is paying attention.

lee909 04-06-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 743974)
I'm pretty sure we're going to take Joe Mixon in the 2nd or 3rd round now.

Maybe not
AP in for a visit next week

K Major 04-07-2017 09:06 AM

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Check out the latest mock selections for the Saints @ #11 ...
See two scouts have us taking a QB early.

ESPN's Mel Kiper
No. 11: Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
No. 32: John Ross, WR, Washington
No. 42: Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU

ESPN's Todd McShay
No. 11: Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
No. 32: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
No. 42: Tyus Bowser, DE, Houston

Bleacher Report's Matt Miller
No. 11: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
No. 32: Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State

NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah
No. 11: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
No. 32: Budda Baker, S, Washington

NFL Network's Lance Zierlein
No. 11: Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA
No. 32: Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado

NFL Draft Scout's Dane Brugler
No. 11: Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
No. 32: Deshone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame

CBS Sports' Rob Rang
No. 11: Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
No. 32: Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA

Sports Illustrated's Chris Burke
No. 11: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
No. 32: Kevin King, CB, Washington

NFL Network's Charley Casserly ***
No. 11: Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
No. 32: Traded to Cleveland Browns

NFL Network's Chad Reuter
No. 11: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
No. 32: Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU

What the mocks are saying the Saints might do at No. 11, No. 32 and beyond | Saints | theadvocate.com

lee909 04-07-2017 09:26 AM

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Traded to Cleveland for what?

lee909 04-07-2017 09:56 AM

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Quiet liked this draft from Charlie on WalterFootball

11. New Orleans Saints: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

The Saints could use another edge rusher and a cornerback upgrade. Here's an end to pair with Cam Jordan. From what I've heard from sources, the Saints love Charlton, so I don't think they would pass on him.

Entering the 2016 season, Charlton flashed for Michigan but was mainly a backup and also was used inside at tackle. In 2016 though, he racked up 9.5 sacks, 43 tackles and 13 tackles for a loss as the bookend defensive end with the stout Chris Wormley. The 6-foot-6, 277-pounder Charlton is athletic with versatile size and length to be a base end in a 4-3 defense or a standup linebacker in a 3-4. Charlton is fast, explosive, and has serious upside to develop in the NFL. Teams feel he could go top-10 and should go top half of the first round.







32. New Orleans Saints: Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut

The Saints cut Jairus Byrd, and this pick makes a ton of sense for what Melifonwu can do for their defense. With his size, speed, and ability to cover, Melifonwu can match up in man on Mike Evans, Kelvin Benjamin or Greg Olsen. Melifonwu also would be helpful in double-teaming Julio Jones, or walking down to be the eighth man in the box. The only question is if Melifonwu makes it to this pick.

Melifonwu has ideal size with length to help defend receivers. The 6-foot-4, 219-pounder had an excellent week at the Senior Bowl to ignite a buzz about him that he carried over into a tremendous performance at the combine. Melifonwu has a great combination of size and speed. He has the cover skills to play corner on big receivers, can be the deep free safety, and also is able to come down in the tackle box. In a matchup league, Melifonwu gives his defensive coordinator the solution to a lot of problems.

In 2016, Melifonwu totaled 118 tackles with three passes broken up and four interceptions. With his skill set, he could have a steady rise in the leadup to the 2017 NFL Draft

42. New Orleans Saints: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida

The Saints could use more cornerback talent.

After losing Vernon Hargreaves to the NFL, Wilson replaced him as Florida's starter alongside Jalen Tabor. Sources with multiple teams graded the 6-foot-1, 211-pound Wilson as a second-rounder, and team evaluators feel that Wilson has above-average speed to go along with his size. In 2016, he totaled 33 tackles with six passes broken up and three interceptions. Sources also feel Wilson has above-average feel and awareness. He is good at running the route to prevent separation with the size to take on big receivers.

Wilson is a longer press-man corner for the NFL with ball skills, but scouting sources say that there are aspects that Wilson needs to improve. He grabs at receivers a lot and could get called for pass interference penalties in the NFL. They also say that he lacks instincts and has some limitations in scheme. Wilson's best fit would be as a longer press-man corner. Thus, he will need some development.

76. New Orleans Saints: ArDarius Stewart, WR, Alabama

The Saints grab a slot receiver to replace Brandin Cooks.

Stewart (5-11, 204) is a sleeper receiver who could be a nice value pick. He totaled 54 receptions for 864 yards and eight touchdowns as a junior. Stewart is tough recevier with functional speed. Teams are grading Stewart as a late second-round to early third-round pick.


103. New Orleans Saints: Davis Webb, QB, California


The Saints grab an understudy to Drew Brees.

In 2016, Webb completed 62 percent of his passes for 4,295 yards with 37 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. The graduate transfer has a strong arm and can make some well-placed passes downfield. He also has good size and stands tall in the pocket. Webb shows some field vision to work through his progressions, but he doesn't have mobility for the NFL. In terms of the critical characteristic of accuracy, Webb has potential. Sources say Webb (6-4, 229) can be erratic, but that they like him enough to think of him as a potential second-day pick. California's offense does a poor job of preparing quarterbacks for the NFL - see Jared Goff -, so Webb will have to learn calling plays in the huddle, working under center, traditional footwork for a pro quarterback, and running NFL plays instead of California's Bear Raid college plays.

Danno 04-07-2017 10:26 AM

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NFL Network's Charley Casserly ***
No. 11: Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
No. 32: Traded to Cleveland Browns
Odd that he thinks we'll get Malcolm Butler AND trade our 32nd to Cleveland.

ChrisXVI 04-07-2017 10:31 AM

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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller
No. 11: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
No. 32: Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State
I would love this! Especially if we added Tyus Bowser in the 2nd round.

QBREES9 04-07-2017 10:17 PM

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UM, I'm from Connecticut. I don't know if I want this to happen. That damn team was awfull

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:31 PM

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Just go Defense heavy early and often

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:32 PM

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11. Malik McDowell 32. If still there Hasson Reddick

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:33 PM

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Not sold on Taco, I would prefer Takkarist over Taco actually

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:33 PM

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For clarity not sold on grabbing Taco at 11 that's to early for him

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:38 PM

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Our D-line is almost complete, Malik McDowell would be a perfect fit he can play up and down the line just like Cam and can rush the passer as well as stop the run. Derek would have been my pick at 11 , but I don't know if he can stop the run, if so consistently grab him. Because he can definitely rush the passer.

Then grab a Hasson Reddick to sure up the LB Corp grab 2 DB's in the 2nd and 3rd. Then we are good to go. defensively. grab a compliment RB and some o-linemen.

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:39 PM

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Tyus Bowser in the 2nd would be love,

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:39 PM

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IDK if the Saints know about love though

Rell&Gold 04-08-2017 12:42 PM

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Malik Sheldon #95 Cam, or

Tyus Bowser, Malik, Sheldon, Cam Jordan.

There are options...plenty of options. I also like the guy from Villanova in the 2nd or 3rd

halloween 65 04-08-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 744126)
Our D-line is almost complete, Malik McDowell would be a perfect fit he can play up and down the line just like Cam and can rush the passer as well as stop the run. Derek would have been my pick at 11 , but I don't know if he can stop the run, if so consistently grab him. Because he can definitely rush the passer.

Then grab a Hasson Reddick to sure up the LB Corp grab 2 DB's in the 2nd and 3rd. Then we are good to go. defensively. grab a compliment RB and some o-linemen.

I like McDowell also but would rather have Cunningham over Reddick.

K Major 04-08-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 744122)
11. Malik McDowell

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Rugby Saint II 04-09-2017 03:15 PM

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Please no QB this year. It would only anger Drew. If we waste another third rounder when a starter can be found along the O-line or a running back I'll be sick.

Rell&Gold 04-10-2017 12:48 AM

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Actually watched some tape on Malik Hooker and he is for sure a starting FS in the league hands down, same goes for Marshon Lattimore. Wouldn't be mad if we could get both DE is pretty deep this year


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