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papz 03-24-2005 02:21 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
The Raiders have apparently become the latest team trying to snag defensive end Darren Howard away from the Saints. Howard, whom New Orleans tagged as its franchise player this off-season, has been on the trading block with the Cowboys mentioned as the team most likely to acquire him. But Oakland has talked recently with New Orleans, dangling players such as its own franchise player CB Charles Woodson (who carries his own $10.5 cap number for 2005) or another disgruntled CB Phillip Buchanon (who would like to be traded). Word is the Saints would prefer to make a deal before the draft, in hopes of also adding another pick from this year's draft. If a Howard deal doesn't happen by the draft, the Saints plan on keeping him.

I wouldn't mind Buchanon and a draft pick... the guy has shown flashes of becoming a Probowl caliber corner. A second rounder with it would seal it for me.

turbo_dog 03-24-2005 02:27 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Buchanon and a pick would be a GREAT trade for us. He has played well and also returns punts and kicks.

Funny... I believe the 13th pick in 2002 came down to Donte Stallworth or Phillip Buchanon. :cool:

ssmitty 03-24-2005 02:28 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
i like the last sentence myself.........smitty

JKool 03-24-2005 02:28 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Interesting idea papz.

I wouldn\'t mind Buchannon; I think he is a quality corner. With McKenzie, we\'d have a damn fine group back there. A second corner is pretty far down my list of needs though.

Further, it doesn\'t address our problem at LB though, so we\'d have to get a high pick (1st or 2nd). Of course, these days, a player and a 2nd (so long as the player is someone I\'ve heard of) sounds like a good deal for Howard?

Our secondary won\'t have to worry too much if other teams are running for 4 yards a carry...

papz 03-24-2005 02:30 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
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Saints GM Mickey Loomis said he is getting the cold shoulder from the Cowboys concerning trade talks for New Orleans defensive end Darren Howard. But Jerry Jones said the team remains interested.
-- Fort Worth Star-Telegram



[Edited on 24/3/2005 by papz]

shadowdrinker 03-24-2005 02:51 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
I bet Al would LOVE to dump Woodson off on us...I too would rather have Phillip..He\'s young, fast, talented..and played College for Miami, where He was part of a Championship team..

He has been improving and would only benefit us, if even only as a special teams ace, though I really think if He came here, he would be starting Opposite McKensie...

Oakland has also been dangling Philip in the Dolphins face as well...

4saintspirit 03-24-2005 06:57 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Buchannon -- I would take him in a heartbeat. Our backfield would be McKenzie and Buchannon with Smith at safety. Best backfield I can remember us having (at least on paper). If we got that then I would concentrate all of my efforts in moving up in the draft to get a quality linebacker. Be still my beating heart.

no_cloning 03-24-2005 08:04 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Buchanon and a draft pick - almost too good to be true. The Saints are in a rather good negotiating position given that McKenzie and Brown are an okay tandem (unlike last year\'s).
A big no-no on Woodson and his big mouth. Isn\'t that the sentiment all around the league, fans and FOs on the same page for once? Good luck shopping him, Raiders. ;)

bignic26 03-24-2005 08:33 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Phillip Buchanon and a number 2 would be great! Buchanon is very solid now, but he was unreal his rookie year before he got hurt. I think a change of teams would make his play go up a notch.

BreesFN9 03-24-2005 09:02 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Interesting! :o

So if Dallas realizes that other teams are interested....How BAD do they want Howard? Do they throw Dat back in as part of a trade? So if it comes down to Oak offering Buchanon
( Who I like ) and a 2nd rounder or Dallas offering Dat and a 2nd rounder.....What do you guys like?

Not sure where Oaks 2nd is compared to Dallas, I\'m guessing it\'s better, But I\'d say take the Buchanon trade. I know LB, LB, but.....Who knows?

papz 03-24-2005 09:54 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
I would definately take up the Oakland deal even if it\'s for Philip and a 3rd next year. As for Woodson, I find him to be completely over rated. The NFL is a popularity contest, and his name doesn\'t live up to his game.

bignic26 03-24-2005 09:58 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
I\'d go with the Oakland deal as well. I like Dat but for some reason I\'d rather see Buchanon in a Saints uniform.

papz I agree with you about Woodson. Great player at Mich, never really lived up to his hype coming out.

FireVenturi 03-24-2005 11:48 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
Raiders also don\'t have a 1st rdr anymore, so I dont see them givin up their second! But it would be a good trade

LKelley67 03-24-2005 12:42 PM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
just checking in today, but this is a great rumor. buchannon and #38 would be hot. him and mc with smith behind them, fakhir and craft as nickel/dimes would be shutdown. bellamy could move up and be a defacto linebacker. this fo has been disappointing in talent evaluation (tsuck, sully, etc) but loomis isnt gonna be taken in value on a trade (mckenzie). nice to be in the driver\'s seat and have different teams vying... ok, dallas says player x and a 2nd next year. what can you do al? buchannon and a 2nd this year. okay. jerry, we can get buchannon and a 2nd. can you offer dat and #20?

duece4pres 03-25-2005 01:31 AM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
:cool: No doubt in my mind that Buchanon would start opposite Mckenzie. With Brown and Thomas in the rotation, we would have a solid secondary.

daniel 03-25-2005 04:16 PM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
I would like take the deal with Oakland. Woodson would be my first choice. I know he has a big salary for this year but if we could do a long term deal with him I say go for it. He has some baggage, but the guy can play.

spkb25 03-25-2005 07:20 PM

Howard rumor from owner's meeting
 
oh i saw this on another post. it would be nice to get buchan.


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