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Old 03-24-2005, 11:37 AM   #21
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:41 AM   #22
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And that\'s taken from you\'re own stat source, chump.
So basically what you are saying is your stats made no sense and so you found some that did. Okay I can dig that. But let\'s look at those. Chad Johnson had basically a rookie QB starting. I wonder if he is gonna lock onto his best receiver in his first season as an NFL starter? Already discussed Muhammed. Mason had Volek starting first time in the NFL, again I wonder if he is gonna look for his number one? Ya think? But he also threw 144 balls Drew Bennett\'s way. No tunnel vision. Already shot down Darrel Jackson. I don\'t know why you would post players who had LESS balls thrown their way than Joe, but since you did Gonzales had 148 but Kennison had 106 thrown his way and Morton had 79, and he was hurt for several games. Still less tunnel vision than AB. Lee Evans was a rookie receiver for Buffalo at the number two spot. I wonder if Moulds would get more balls.

I often wondered if you actually understood football Gumbo, but it\'s clear you don\'t even understand what you are saying yourself. You post stats that don\'t even prove your point, piggy back the ones I used to prove you wrong, and still don\'t understand those. Classic.

[Edited on 24/3/2005 by saintswhodi]
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:43 AM   #23
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Here\'s the bottom line. Aaron Brooks attempted the 3rd most passes in the NFL. And depsite that fact, Brooks locked on to Joe Horn no more than other QBs locked on to their number one receiver. Maybe, just maybe, that\'s why those guys are called freakin\' NUMBER ONE receivers.

Here\'s the facts.

Passes Attempted:
1 Trent Green KC 556
2 Daunte Culpepper Min 548
3 Aaron Brooks NO 542
4 Brett Favre GB 540
5 Jake Delhomme Car 533
6 Jake Plummer Den 521
7 Kerry Collins Oak 513
8 Peyton Manning Ind 497
9 Vinny Testaverde Dal 495
10 Joey Harrington Det 489
11 Marc Bulger StL 485
12t Tom Brady NE 474
12t Matt Hasselbeck Sea 474
14 Donovan McNabb Phi 469


Passes thrown to:
1 Chad Johnson Cin 170
2 Laveranues Coles Was 168
3 Muhsin Muhammad Car 160
4 Derrick Mason Ten 158
5 Darrell Jackson Sea 156
6 Joe Horn NO 153
7 Eric Moulds Buf 152
8t Isaac Bruce StL 148
8t Tony Gonzalez KC 148

[Edited on 24/3/2005 by GumboBC]
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:44 AM   #24
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Here we go again...

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Gumbo against me is more like :greenchainsaw: It\'s almost too easy. How do you not know which stats willback up your own argument? That\'s just awful. :P
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:45 AM   #25
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Yeah okay Gumbo. Whatever.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:48 AM   #26
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lol... sw kills with a smiling face... that guy is eVvvViLLLlLL!!!!
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:50 AM   #27
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Damn it! Keep it civil or it\'s locked too!!!!!
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:02 PM   #28
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JoeSam -- Point taken. I\'ll calm my butt down. I know saintwhodi is only joking but we don\'t want to give the casual reader of this site the wrong idea and discourage them from posting. So, your point is taken. Hey, guys ... Joe is the only real modertor here (well, JKool seems to be trying) and we need to listen to him. Not that anyone doesn\'t but I know Joe has a difficult job.

saintwhodi --

If anyone really wants to know how much Brooks locks on to Horn, there is a simple formula.

1. Take the number of pass attempts by the QB and factor in the amount of passes thrown to his number one receiver. That will give you the % of passes thrown to Joe Horn. You can do that for the number 2 and 3 receiveres too.

I don\'t care to take the time to do it, but it\'s pretty evident from looking at the stats I posted that Brooks is right in line with other QBs.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:05 PM   #29
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I don\'t care to take the time to do it, but it\'s pretty evident from looking at the stats I posted that Brooks is right in line with other QBs.
I was just joking around, looking for an argument. No problemo. I still disagree with this statement, as Peyton Manning\'s stats to his receivers will bear out, and he is the standard for QBs. But it\'s all good.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:05 PM   #30
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Too frequently they are mis-used to help prove a point or defend an agenda.
Wow, I had no idea how prophetic that statement would be.
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