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He beat his kids and paid the price. Time to go back to work full-time and get hit a lot harder.
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This is a solid pick up for the value. Considering previous FA signings from Loomis this one has good risk vs reward aspects that can't be denied.
As for those people thinking a RB with our first pick would make sense I have to believe that where you are posting from they've made recreational marijuana legal, or you have a medical card! I for one wouldn't mind seeing those 2 1sr rounds turn into a higher pick for someone much higher in the pass rush ability department. Total pipe dream on my part would be to hope Browns are really stupid (good historical background for this assumption) and give us their 1st for our two picks. DBs are plentiful and I think with what we've got a little further back talent could be developed into a good contributor with a chip on his shoulder. It's funny how people on boards are slamming our def from last year but never accounting for the fact that we basically lost our starting lineup in the secondary by game 2. AP, hope he contributes and is a model player for the team and community. I'd like to see him and Ingram running out of the backfield at the same time. That's a dual threat that could baffle a Def Coord and really mess with coverages that allow the WRs to shred secondaries. Let alone the middle would open up and if Fleener can get it together that open seam down the middle will be able to gut defenses. Just my 2 Lincolns. Looking forward to the draft regardless. |
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I haven't really held a high opinion of him, as a person, but it actually had little to do with this incident with his kid. My deal with him is that he apparently has kids all over the place, from different mothers, and he just kind of goes about his life. I don't respect that. But I don't think he's a monster, and I think the incident with his child, though clearly a mistake, was probably overblown. But I don't know for sure. What I do know is that the fact that he got "convicted" doesn't actually change the point of the subject. Parents get thrown in prison for almost nothing these days, if some nosy person decides to report them for disciplining their kids. So naturally AP would get convicted. I have no way of knowing what his intentions were that day, but a court ruling against him was not hard to see coming, given this age of wussification. |
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Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything. Of course there is such a thing as going overboard with discipline. If someone can confirm that this wasn't an isolated incident with Peterson, then I'll call him out on it. But anything can happen in a one time deal. Kids are precious, and can be really sweet, but they can also drive you crazy at any given moment. You have to do the best to manage your emotions in that situation. I can also speak from experience that I don't always handle it the right way. I certainly don't beat up my child, but I have definitely gone overboard in the heat of the moment. |
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I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me.
Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick! |
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With you with that
I got the odd smack as a child but never beaten,especially not woth a object. |
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Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul. |
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Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful. I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well. |
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This is old news IMO and has been hash over in MPLS. If MPLS can move on NO should be able to do the same
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Has he done it since? If so, chop him up and put him on a school lunch menu -gotta be healthier than some of that stuff I've seen kids carry off the line. If not then he's figured it out. Give him the ball and see what he can do with it. What's done is done, redemption is everyone's right.
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It's how I was raised, and what problems I have are unrelated to any of that. I learned respect, courtesy, and I didn't fear my parents in any way other than the healthy kind of fear I spoke of, where I knew if I disobeyed them, I would get the belt, or have some privilege taken away for an indefinite period of time. |
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"I truly regret this incident," Peterson said outside the courthouse. "I stand here and take full responsibility for my actions. I love my son more than any one of you could even imagine. I am looking forward to and I am anxious to continue my relationship with my child.
"I am just glad this is over. I can put this behind me and me and my family can begin to move forward." Peterson, 29, had stood accused of injuring his 4-year-old son in May after disciplining him with a tree branch or "switch." Peterson said the injuries were unintentional and that he was imposing the same kind of discipline that had been imposed on him as a boy growing up in Texas. |
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I was beat with a belt and I deserved it. I was a rebellious hellion as a teen and ended up with an ultimatum...drop out of school and get a job or join the military. I choose military and it was the best decision I have ever made.
I have a 22 yr old son and a 20 yr old daughter. I can count on one hand how many times I had to hit my son and my daughter never crossed the line. Some kids (like myself( are more thick headed than others. |
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Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent. Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way. |
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Now that's worst case scenario, but at the very least you can expect that they will not treat people with respect, and that makes them not very likable people. There are different means of punishment, and that's why I said people are entitled to their own way. But rest assured, talking only goes so far. Talking is where you set the boundaries, and it is not a form of punishment. When those boundaries are broken (and that time always comes eventually, to one degree or another) what do you do? Do you just repeat the same things? Where is the lesson in that? See what I'm getting at? Now, my parents' way was to spank us, or take a privilege away. That didn't injure me, or hurt my mental psyche. My daughter is a little too young for me to be worried about her doing something truly bad. It's mostly just not responding in a timely manner of fashion when I tell her to do something, at times, or she gets too loud, or sometimes pouts a little bit if I have to say "no" to something. That sort of thing. I don't really have to get on her too much about anything, but those little things add up if not dealt with properly. You might not do things the same way I do, but that doesn't mean your way is right and mine is wrong, or vice versa. In terms of teaching them how to deal with adversity, that is an entirely different thing. If your kid comes up to you saying they are struggling with something, you don't punish them for that. You help them the best way you can, by giving advice, talking about your own experiences, and just encouraging them. That has nothing to do with discipline. There are a lot of roles in parenthood, man, and it isn't black and white. |
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Look at all the people in trailer parks, living in poverty, living as low level socialization, not involved in things, etc.....almost all of those types were spanked and spanked their kids. You can still discipline a kid when he misbehaves without spanking. But also, you should teach kids to be good and kind to other people while also teaching them toughness by getting them involved in stuff like martial arts and sports. |
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Not even close to the same concept. Your argument would be more intelligent if it didn't reach for false moral equivalence. Disciplining your child physically leads to the individual being more content and successful later in life. Smacked children more successful later in life, study finds - Telegraph Also note, that beating your child and physically disciplining them is not the same, child abuse is real but it's important to understand severity and intent. |
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Use long term studies to assure your position. Your opinion of people means nothing. In fact, the long term studies show the exact opposite, see my previous post, or actually do research. Many on this board should refrain from using their personal experiences as evidence, they mean nothing. Scientific studies have been conducted on this subject for years and while it shows that it can cause more anxious children while in adolescence the kids grow into successful adults at a much higher rate than the alternative. Those are facts, your opinion doesn't matter. Again, I'll say this before the triggered SJW jumps in... Physical discipline can go too far and that's not acceptable. |
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Peterson also said that he was approached by a couple of other teams about visiting after the draft, but felt “love and energy” with the Saints that led him to sign with the team last month.
He also saw the potential benefits of playing on an offense quarterbacked by Drew Brees, saying he wonders “what will the opposing team do” to defend both the run and pass. The first team to offer an answer in the regular system will be Peterson’s former team and he said Tuesday that joining the Saints “was meant to be” when he saw the Vikings would be New Orleans’ opponent in Week One. Adrian Peterson comfortable with crowded Saints backfield | ProFootballTalk |
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As usual, our board is the high road. Lively discussion, yes, but this didnt go anywhere near the flame-fest, im sure some other place has been.
Good read, and good to chat w/ you guys. how many more days till training camp? |
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