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lee909 04-26-2017 10:45 AM

Re: Defense reigns as Advocate writers take over Saints' war room for final mock draft simulation
 
Been banging the drum for Jones too. If we trade back get him late 2 even if we have picks or anywhere R3. He has said his surgeon says he is back this year.

If we could get Foster/DE/Lattimore with 11. Then TE/DE/CB/S at 32 and 42 and Jones R3 the defense could go from a weakness to a strength

lee909 04-26-2017 10:48 AM

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My worry is Humphreys
Looks great on paper but that man got terrorised with long throws. Giving up a avg catch of 19 yards on College then playing Julio Jones,Mike Evans,Kelvin Benjamin and DeSean Jackson a combined 6 times a year doesnot sound good to me. If Lattimore falls cool take him if not go for someone at 32/42

My worry with Conley Rape allegations is that it may well cause others to rise and we could just miss out at 32

Lord_Saint83 04-26-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 746075)
I actually like this mock draft. Marshon Lattimore would be a gift he fell to us at pick 11. He's a 6'0" corner who excels at man coverage and ran a 4.36. I never even considered he'd be there even with the hamstring issues. It's similar to Jamal Adams. I don't think they'll be available to us, so I haven't accounted for them. What I would love most about this draft is adding both Lattimore and Sidney Jones. I don't think you'd have to worry about that position for 10 years. Before the injury, I wanted Sidney Jones at 11...even over Reuben Foster. That kid is special. With the addition of Adrian Peterson to go along with Mark Ingram, I like the Curtis Samuel selection a well. No need to elaborate there. We know the role he'd be able to fill. I don't mind Zach Cunningham as a 2nd rounder if he were to fall to us. He has a high motor and he flies to the ball. He needs to get a little stronger and sure up that tackling a tad, but he's always around the ball. That's something I don't see from our defense. Athletes flying to the ball. I'm not big on Harris, but maybe there will be a better prospect there at 32 we could take like T.J. Watt or Takkarist McKinley. Based on the draft scenario of the article Derek Barnett is there. If that's the case then I'd go:

Pick 11: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
Pick 32: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
Pick 42: Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt
Pick 76: Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, Ohio State
Pick 103: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

The 32nd pick would be the only thing I'd change up if that's how the board was shaping up. The Sidney Jones selection would be such a steal. I'm telling you. Not to mention, we just addressed every level of the defense with the first 3 picks. I'd be smiling from ear to ear after seeing these five players added to the Saints roster. Everybody is doubting us. We'll shock the world.



I agree with you Rez on Jones. He is basically Peters without the drama. A would of been top 15 pick in the 3rd is a mega steal. Would jump on that all day everyday

rezburna 04-26-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 746085)
I agree with you Rez on Jones. He is basically Peters without the drama. A would of been top 15 pick in the 3rd is a mega steal. Would jump on that all day everyday

And so far Marcus Peters hasn't had any drama whatsoever and he's looking like he'll take the reigns as the best corner in the league soon. We whiffed on that one by taking Andrus Peat instead. I'm looking at that draft right now.

Devante Parker, WR, Miami Dolphins
Melvin Gordon, RB, Los Angeles Chargers
Marcus Peters, CB, Kansas City Chiefs
Shane Ray, EDGE, Denver Broncos
Shaq Thompson, OLB, Carolina Panthers
Byron Jones, DB, Dallas Cowboys
Landon Collins, FS, New York Giants
Jalen Collins, CB, Atlanta Falcons
Eric Kendricks, LB, Minnesota Vikings

We took Andrus Peat, Stephone Anthony, and Hau'oli Kikiha with our first three picks and passed on all these guys. We can't keep doing this. Last year was a step in the right direction.

AsylumGuido 04-26-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 746090)
And so far Marcus Peters hasn't had any drama whatsoever and he's looking like he'll take the reigns as the best corner in the league soon. We whiffed on that one by taking Andrus Peat instead. I'm looking at that draft right now.

Devante Parker, WR, Miami Dolphins
Melvin Gordon, RB, Los Angeles Chargers
Marcus Peters, CB, Kansas City Chiefs
Shane Ray, EDGE, Denver Broncos
Shaq Thompson, OLB, Carolina Panthers
Byron Jones, DB, Dallas Cowboys
Landon Collins, FS, New York Giants
Jalen Collins, CB, Atlanta Falcons
Eric Kendricks, LB, Minnesota Vikings

We took Andrus Peat, Stephone Anthony, and Hau'oli Kikiha with our first three picks and passed on all these guys. We can't keep doing this. Last year was a step in the right direction.

Last year was the first year with new scouts that had replaced those fired by Payton/Loomis and the first year with Jeff Ireland very involved in the selection process. 2016 is the only year that we can truly base future draft success upon. Comparing to 2015 and earlier is like comparing apples and orangutans.

rezburna 04-26-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 746096)
Last year was the first year with new scouts that had replaced those fired by Payton/Loomis and the first year with Jeff Ireland very involved in the selection process. 2016 is the only year that we can truly base future draft success upon. Comparing to 2015 and earlier is like comparing apples and orangutans.

True. So far, so good for Ireland.

Rugby Saint II 04-27-2017 02:30 PM

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Defense better reign......if not it could be a long season.

neugey 04-27-2017 03:17 PM

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Draft Lattimore and hire a new athletic trainer if need be :)


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