So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season?

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

no matter who you added it was always going to be a long season for the defense.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Actually, weed only have a couple of spots that really need an impact player. Once we clean everyone off of IR we will be looking a whole lot better.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds.

We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Not smart to do with no idea what you are working with. But, that has never seemed to impede you.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

We may still grab a FA CB or trade for one.

Why so negative and short-sighted?

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Our defense will be in the top 15 this year. If we pick up a DE and probably 2 quality corners in the 1st and 2nd round and our entire secondary back from injuries last season it will be even better and adding AP to the offense and Ginn for speed and returns will improve the offense.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

As long as we can stay relatively healthy we have the players to make a run.

Even before the draft I think our defense has enough talent with the FA additions to be average.

The offense should be great again without adding any other players.

Health has been the key for the last few years, and it will continue to be until we get rid of the bug.

Personally, I think our best off-season move was not returning to the Greenbrier. I bet our players are healthy and come out of the gate ready to play week 1.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

You have got to look at this kid Douglas from WV. He is 6'3, 203 pounds and had 70 tackles and 8 ints last year. Projected to go in rd 3. Kid looks like the real deal

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I wouldn't put the final nail in the coffin of the deal just yet. You never know and I don't hear the fat lady singing.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

We could have EVERY top DB in the NFL on the team and it means squat if we can't get pressure on the QB.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Decide the fate of the defense when we haven't even had the draft yet.... or been into training camp... yep that makes sense...

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

That's how he rolls.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I thought it was appropriate to have this in bold. Injuries can make or break a teams entire season. Hopefully we steer clear away from anything serious or season ending.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I'm not negative? Y'all are the ones who have made a big deal about the defense needing secondary help. I will say this. If we are relying on healthy players, then we're asking for the wrong thing. Only one of those hurt players(Kikaha) has impact potential.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

So we are relying on injury prone PJ Williams a player who should not even be playing NFL?

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

That's not the argument I have been hearing lately.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

WillSaints, we all have opinions, and they sometimes differ quite a bit... But you really never seem to have anything good to say about anything. It's almost ALWAYS total panic and gloom.

I avoid commenting in most of your threads because I used to think you were more trolling than you were serious. I'm starting to think you might actually be serious now, and that is pretty amazing. I just don't sense any objectivity in your threads. It's just straight for the gutter.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Whilst PJ's injuries have been frustrating, the last one was completely out of his control.

So why should he not be playing in the NFL? He has a ton of talent and would have showed it last season.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

Doesn't every NFL team rely on healthy players?

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

What??? I'd hate to live in your pessimistic world, especially since you appear to think you're just being objective. Our DB's injuries were just contact, freak accidents that aren't indicative of their long term health possibilities.

I'd be more worried about Kikaha who if I'm not mistaken had a knee injury in college and now again a non-contact one last season.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

A great example is the Saints' defense in 2013 vs. 2014.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

It is the same ol story - time to gel

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I'm more excited and hopeful because we got rid of some terrible and complacent coaches than anything else. I still think we can be better with the current roster than last year. Based on coaching replacements alone!

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I thought I put "and" a player who should not be playing, aka Swann.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

The point is injuries happen. And if you don't have depth that's bad. Depth is important. You can talk about fluke injuries, but most players that get hurt don't always have the same injuries. Keenan Allen was said to have had a fluke injury in 15? Guess what, we got hurt again in 2016. Once a player gets hurt they will be afraid to get hurt again that they will try to do things differently. Injuries have a mental effect.

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

What are you talking about?! He suffered a lacerated kidney in 2015(missed 8 games) and then tore his ACL early last season(IR).

Two completely different types of injuries that would have no bearing on each other... And the mental effect is mostly after you come back from a limb injury and you have trouble trusting it(cutting, extending, etc...) again

Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA
 

I enjoy discussing draft, personnel moves as much as anyone, but as we said on the coaching thread...

There will be no bigger impact possible for this team than our new position coaches...

Mike Nolan has developed as many collegiate (Stanford, LSU, etc) and professional (Broncos, Giants, Ravens, Chargers, et al) HOF LBers as anyone...

Ryan Nielsen has impressive stops as a Defensive Coach including Ole Miss and NC State, absolutely transformed those defensive lines into ranked units...

And the return of one of the best WR coaches in Curtis Johnson, not to mention a long demanded change at Special Teams...

Can just still hear my Dad telling his brother-in-laws at family gatherings, holidays when Tom Landry's Cowboys or Bill Walsh's 49ers were winning -

"It's the Coaching, Stupid"...