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hagan714 04-27-2017 11:12 PM

Everything to know about Marshon Lattimore
 
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Everything to know about Marshon Lattimore
By Connor Hughes | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
April 27, 2017 at 9:28 PM, updated April 27, 2017 at 9:44 PM

The New Orleans Saints used the No. 11 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft on Marshon Lattimore, a cornerback from Ohio State.

Here's everything you need to know about him.

Up-and-down in high school. As a freshman, Rivals.com gave Marshon Lattimore an early 5-star ranking, citing the fluidness in his game. When he committed to Ohio State, they dropped him down to 4 stars. Lattimore didn't progress much between his junior and senior seasons, allowing others across the nation to catch up to him.

Lattimore finished as the No. 7 ranked cornerback in the nation, 134th overall prospect, and third best in his home state of Ohio. He was one of the six finalists for the U.S. Army Player of the Year award.

Questionable injury history. Lattimore has drawn some comparisons to ex-Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner, and not for good reasons. While a freaky athlete and undoubtedly talented, Lattimore dealt with hamstring issues his first couple of seasons with the Buckeyes. He couldn't finish the 2014 or 2015 seasons because of them.

College stats. Lattimore was a full-time starter in 2016, and paired with Malik Hooker (safety) and Gaeron Conley (cornerback) to form one of the better secondaries in the nation. He had 41 tackles, four interceptions and nine defended passes last year.

According to PFF, Lattimore allowed an NFL passer rating of just 30.2 on throws into his coverage in 2016. The NFL passer rating for throwing the ball away on every single play is 39.6. This means quarterbacks were better off throwing the ball into the ground each play instead of targeting Lattimore.

Strengths (via NFL.com): Uber-athlete. Parks under receiver's chin at line of scrimmage. Uses disruptive inside hand to slow the release and can punch out of his pedal. Patient from his press, utilizing well-timed opening to match the receiver. Plays with explosive hip flip that jump-starts him into top speed when forced to turn and run. Has balance and footwork to remain in phase with target throughout the route. Has electric, flat-footed closing burst. Can shadow a nine route from release to completion. Has twitch to drive hard toward the throw from his lateral shuffle. Plays with plus instincts.

Weaknesses (via NFL.com): Only one year of starting experience. Wasn't tested by high-end receiving talent very often. Will be much tougher to consistently slow NFL receivers with jam and might have to learn to play some off coverage. Showed slight transition hitch when matched up against in inside release. Will read receiver's eyes to assess ball-timing down the field rather than getting his head around early. Film shows infrequent issues recovering against speed merchants.

NFL Draft 2017: Everything to know about Marshon Lattimore, Saints' 1st-round pick | NJ.com

foreverfan 04-27-2017 11:39 PM

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Saints got the #1 Rated CB and OT in the draft.

You can't blame the drafting scouts for this draft
as those players just fell to the Saints just like that.

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burningmetal 04-27-2017 11:51 PM

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I'm telling you, there is no coincidence that we keep taking Ohio State players. I think Marshon Lattimore probably is indeed the best cornerback in the draft. But I don't see how he could have been the best player available, given some of the others who were there. But with the Saints, Ohio State players just shoot up their boards, for whatever reason.

I'm not really upset with this pick, as I believe in his ability, but I didn't see this pick coming with the guys who were on the board. This, for me, is just further confirmation about what I've believed with the Saints and OSU. Good player, though.

We still have enormous pass rushing questions. Maybe we get a guy like Tim Williams. He can certainly get up the field, but he was an absolute one trick pony in college, so I don't know how reliable he would be.

SmashMouth 04-27-2017 11:58 PM

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WTF... no trade for Butler?!?!


Good move by Da Saints!

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:00 AM

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I'm beginning to believe that they believe that Okafor will be starting opposite Cam Jordan...

Pass Rush could be already solved and we don't realize it

nola_swammi 04-28-2017 01:55 AM

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Love this pick but as much as I love this pick I hate the 32 pick. All the top pass rushers were gone would've preferred we traded down or picked forest lamp instead due to his hip surgery and being a 1 year starter

FinSaint 04-28-2017 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 746969)
Love this pick but as much as I love this pick I hate the 32 pick. All the top pass rushers were gone would've preferred we traded down or picked forest lamp instead due to his hip surgery and being a 1 year starter

In order to trade down, you need a partner willing to trade up. That might've been the case if Foster hadn't been taken with the previous pick, but then again the Saints would've surely picked him themselves.

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Crusader 04-28-2017 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 746971)
In order to trade down, you need a partner willing to trade up. That might've been the case if Foster hadn't been taken with the previous pick, but then again the Saints would've surely picked him themselves.

Yeah, too many peopel on here seem to Think trading down is a really easy thing to do when its not. Considering how loaded this draft is in the second and third round I can see why not many teams are interested in moving up.

spkb25 04-28-2017 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 746969)
Love this pick but as much as I love this pick I hate the 32 pick. All the top pass rushers were gone would've preferred we traded down or picked forest lamp instead due to his hip surgery and being a 1 year starter

And I actually really love the pick at 32. Would have been nice if Charles fell to us, but I like the value in the pick, it is a need, and it all starts up front.

WillMacKenzie 04-28-2017 05:28 AM

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Lattimore pulled a hammy getting out of his seat. Looks like we'll have the strongest IR in the draft.

hagan714 04-28-2017 05:37 AM

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With Houston trading up for a QB at 12 makes me bet Houston called us to jump ahead of Cleveland. Cleveland picked up a first rounder in 2018. That added fuel to the fire for me. Then again this deal might have been part of the deal that let Houston dump Brock Osweiler.

Taking a CB with his injury history and knowing the lengths OSU went through to keep him on the field in 2016 made me shake my head even more. Athleticism is their no doubt. Now to keep him out of the tub. I watched the kid a lot and liked Gareon Conley more.

Not only do I have to watch Christian McCaffrey twice a year but I also have to watch O.J. Howard twice a year after we passed on him. In five years I better not feel the same I do do now as Howard becomes one of the best TE in the NFL and Fleener cashes in on that god awful contract the saints signed him too. Managing the cap through the draft is something the saints stink at. :dunce:

Here to Marshon Lattimore staying healthy and proving me wrong.:brood:

Ryan Ramczyk I can accept a lot easier. He played all season long with the injury so it probably wont be an chronic issue. One year starter sure but unlike Peat who only played LT Ryan played OT and OG and swung from side to side in practices. He is a solid RT prospect to take over for Zack, that has a swing skill set. Our jumbo package will be killer.

We drafted our future RT? A year behind Zach and doing spot duties will only make him better. He may beat Zach out year 1

Pick 42? I am screaming a True FS or another CB

If Lattimore can stay healthy, get coached up and match the pro bowls of Howard.

This has a chance of being an A+ round 1.

Euphoria 04-28-2017 05:43 AM

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I noticed a couple of things and I am seeing how they play out. Saints tend to be drafting a player on each level. So we go DB, now OL. Look for them to draft DL, LB, offensive back field, WR.

I think they like the idea of adding fresh blook on each level on O and D.

Ashley 04-28-2017 06:01 AM

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I'm not in the wow factor here. Lattimore, not pleased with this pick . So we pick up a kid who has yet some injury history, and lack of experience. I think I'm not happy cause I wanted a DE at 11. Then some are saying we picked up a tackle for the future, how does that help our Defense now.
I prey Lattimore is all what he needs to be . Otherwise we tanked the 11th pick again.

dizzle88 04-28-2017 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 746989)
I'm not in the wow factor here. Lattimore, not pleased with this pick . So we pick up a kid who has yet some injury history, and lack of experience. I think I'm not happy cause I wanted a DE at 11. Then some are saying we picked up a tackle for the future, how does that help our Defense now.
I prey Lattimore is all what he needs to be . Otherwise we tanked the 11th pick again.

Whilst he's probably a solid player, I don't agree with the pick.

We have 100's of DB's and a lack of any real talent besides Cam Jordan at DE, the obvious choice was to get someone to start opposite it him.

But once again Sean Payton is in love with DB's and can't fathom that bolstering up front first will have a knock on effect, helping out the back end.

saintsfan1976 04-28-2017 07:25 AM

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Looks small on film.
Doesn't shed blocks.
WRs in our division are tall and fast.
Left the combine with hip stiffness.

Did we spend our #1 pick on a slot CB who may have problems staying healthy?

frydaddy 04-28-2017 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 747004)
Looks small on film.
Doesn't shed blocks.
WRs in our division are tall and fast.
Left the combine with hip stiffness.

Did we spend our #1 pick on a slot CB who may have problems staying healthy?

Yes. And what's worse is that we passed on a once every decade or so type of LB.. And why? Because he's not cuddly wuddly widdle sweetie pie? I thought I would've gotten over it by now but I'm still just as pissed off as I was when Lattimore's name was called. Then to see Foster come off the board at 31 made me want to vomit. I literally had no reaction to our second pick because I ran out of f***s to give.

Utah_Saint 04-28-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 747004)
Looks small on film.
Doesn't shed blocks.
WRs in our division are tall and fast.
Left the combine with hip stiffness.

Did we spend our #1 pick on a slot CB who may have problems staying healthy?

Despite all that, he was still the top rated CB by just about every scout out there.

K Major 04-28-2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 747133)
Despite all that, he was still the top rated CB by just about every scout out there.

-Only allowed 18 receptions all year and a QB rating of 30.
-Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 2.8 on passes thrown into his coverage on slants.
-Routinely blanketed receivers out of the play. Matched receivers stride for stride on go routes,
allowing just two of the 12 passes thrown into his coverage on go routes to be caught.

Saints drafted a top 5 talent & is a flat out baller & play maker. Not sure what else people want from a Pro prospect at #11.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 747138)
-Only allowed 18 receptions all year and a QB rating of 30.
-Allowed an NFL passer rating of just 2.8 on passes thrown into his coverage on slants.
-Routinely blanketed receivers out of the play. Matched receivers stride for stride on go routes,
allowing just two of the 12 passes thrown into his coverage on go routes to be caught.

Saints drafted a top 5 talent & is a flat out baller & play maker. Not sure what else people want from a Pro prospect at #11.

I saw somewhere last night; someone was saying that it was actually more efficient to throw the ball away than to throw against Lattimore... :bng:

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 12:38 PM

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brees84 04-28-2017 12:46 PM

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In coverage this guy looks more like WR than the player he is blanketing. Crazy skills...

burningmetal 04-28-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 747004)
Looks small on film.
Doesn't shed blocks.
WRs in our division are tall and fast.
Left the combine with hip stiffness.

Did we spend our #1 pick on a slot CB who may have problems staying healthy?

His film looked fine to me, and he didn't seem small. I am a bit concerned about his ability to stay healthy, however. Considering we have two very talented corners on our roster who everyone says can't stay healthy, and thus they thought we should have traded for Malcolm Butler, it's a little odd to pick another corner with injury concerns.

IF, however, he stays healthy, I think he'll be a really good player. I also thought we had bigger needs, but I've already stated my opinion on all of that.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 12:48 PM

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Here is his injury history:

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Lattimore redshirted his first year at Ohio State in 2014 and played in only seven games his redshirt freshman year in 2015, due to hamstring injuries.[3][4][5] He fully recovered from the injuries to become a starter in 2016.[6][7] On November 29, 2016, Lattimore was named First Team All-Big Ten by the coaches.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 12:51 PM

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https://www.profootballfocus.com/dra...-from-round-1/

Round 1, pick No. 11: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

The Saints were able to sit at their No. 11 pick and watch the best cornerback in the draft class fall into their laps due to the run on offensive players in the top 10. Lattimore is a smooth athlete that makes sticky man coverage look easy. Lattimore was targeted 41 times in 2016 and only allowed 18 receptions for 226 yards and one TD. He is also a solid tackler who didn’t miss one of his 37 solo tackle attempts in 2016. Lattimore should be able to start immediately for the cornerback-thirsty Saints, as his 86.0 coverage grade in 2016 would represent an upgrade for New Orleans.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:00 PM

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Papa Voodoo 04-28-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 746969)
Love this pick but as much as I love this pick I hate the 32 pick. All the top pass rushers were gone would've preferred we traded down or picked forest lamp instead due to his hip surgery and being a 1 year starter

nobody liked the Peat pick either but he's a hoss and played well at LG and LT last year.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:28 PM

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Mayock: Marshon Lattimore 'can be Aqib Talib' - NFL Videos

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:42 PM

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Sources Tell Us "I've studied the top cornerbacks coming out and he's the best I've seen. He's so athletic that he can just post up under the receiver's chin and shadow him all over the field. And he's tough, too. He'll be one of the top cornerbacks pretty quickly." -- Pro personnel director for AFC team

NFL Comparison: Vontae Davis

Bottom Line: Average-sized, one-year starter with explosive athleticism and a loaded tool box. He has the feet, hips and agility to be a lockdown cornerback and the ball skills to make teams pay for looking in his direction. His lack of experience could show up early, but he has the confidence and competitive nature that should help him overcome those issues. He has the ability to become a Pro Bowl cornerback early in his career.
:bng:

spkb25 04-28-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 746989)
Then some are saying we picked up a tackle for the future, how does that help our Defense now.
.

i think less 3 and outs helps our d and any time you can control the clock and run the ball I think it helps your d. I think it helps indirectly.

K Major 04-28-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 747155)
nobody liked the Peat pick either but he's a hoss and played well at LG and LT last year.

Circle back to last season ... some (not on this board) thought Michael Thomas was a reach in the 2nd & he is already become a rising star.

I'll continue to believe in Jeff Ireland and company.

AllSaints 04-28-2017 02:56 PM

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Iim not sure how you can't be ecstatic about these pics ....

foreverfan 04-28-2017 03:02 PM

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DRAFT REPAIR ON IN FULL MODE

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AsylumGuido 04-28-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 747184)
Circle back to last season ... some (not on this board) thought Michael Thomas was a reach in the 2nd & he is already become a rising star.

I'll continue to believe in Jeff Ireland and company.

I agree, K. He appears to be having a "Major" impact!

AsylumGuido 04-28-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 747190)

Bump!

voodooido 04-28-2017 03:13 PM

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Mike Triplett
ESPN Staff Writer

Sean Payton said the Saints had CB Marshon Lattimore ranked as their No. 3 or 4 prospect. When he fell to No. 11, the reaction in the room was "outstanding." The Saints even considered trading up for him before their patience paid off.

voodooido 04-28-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 747155)
nobody liked the Peat pick either but he's a hoss and played well at LG and LT last year.

After our starters we have no backups that could step in and play. He or Zach can come off the bench and play great in a reserve roll. He will be our starter nxt year for sure when Zach retires. Hell of a pick. I love both so far. Now lets go get Willis in rd 2, Leggett and Beckwith in rd 3!

voodooido 04-28-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 746961)
I'm telling you, there is no coincidence that we keep taking Ohio State players. I think Marshon Lattimore probably is indeed the best cornerback in the draft. But I don't see how he could have been the best player available, given some of the others who were there. But with the Saints, Ohio State players just shoot up their boards, for whatever reason.

I'm not really upset with this pick, as I believe in his ability, but I didn't see this pick coming with the guys who were on the board. This, for me, is just further confirmation about what I've believed with the Saints and OSU. Good player, though.

We still have enormous pass rushing questions. Maybe we get a guy like Tim Williams. He can certainly get up the field, but he was an absolute one trick pony in college, so I don't know how reliable he would be.


Like who? SP himself said they had him #3 on their board.

nola_swammi 04-28-2017 03:32 PM

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curious if we're going to single him up on Brandin Cooks any when we play Patriots.

brees84 04-28-2017 04:09 PM

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Bleacher report:

Strengths: Athleticism, size, technique, pretty much everything.

Weaknesses: Some little issues.

Marshon Lattimore is so good that when you try to scout other players, he upstages them. Several times during draft season, I found myself watching Raekwon McMillan or some receiver facing Ohio State, and I would suddenly have to rewind the tape a little bit. "Holy cow, was that Lattimore? How did he chase down that overthrow? How did he undercut that route? Why am I watching this guy and not just enjoying me some extra Lattimore?"

Instead of listing Lattimore's many virtues, let's nitpick. He has NCAA cornerback, play-the-receiver-not the-ball tendencies on contested passes. That takes about three days of training camp to correct, because a cornerback who can get in proper position to hassle the receiver can be taught to turn his head.

Lattimore also gets a little flat-footed off the line of scrimmage at times, and he will reach to grab a receiver releasing inside of him instead of either jamming or turning to chase. That's usually a focus issue caused by opponents avoiding your side of the field for quarters at a time.

That's about it for the criticism. Lattimore should grow quickly into a shutdown NFL cornerback.

This was a windfall for the Saints: the best cornerback in the draft, sitting pretty at No. 11. They also have another first-round pick. And Adrian Peterson. Let the good times roll, and let some of their 38-35 losses turn into 35-28 victories!



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