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hagan714 04-28-2017 06:59 PM

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Marcus Williams? no way lmao

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:00 PM

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hagan714 04-28-2017 07:00 PM

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Marcus Williams FS Utah 6005 202 4.56 #20 Jr
Arms 32 1/2
Hands 9 1/2
Bench 14
VJ 43.5
BJ 10'9"
40 4.56
20
10
20S 4.20
60S 11.26
3C 6.85
Williams is a solid, dependable player both in coverage and against the run. He did not miss a single tackle when playing within 8 yards of the line of scrimmage at the snap, and led all FBS safeties in run-stop percentage when playing at that depth. While not a flashy hitter on the back end, he had 10-combined interceptions between 2015 and 2016 and gave up just 11 total receptions as the primary defender on 430 total coverage reps the past two seasons. A twitchy athlete with good size, length, speed, toughness and instincts is just what the saints need in deep center field.

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 07:01 PM

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Morten Andersen, still awkward after all these years...Gotta Love Him!

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 07:01 PM

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ESPN breaks coverage on our pick, about right!

lee909 04-28-2017 07:02 PM

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MARCUS WILLIAMSUTAH PAC-12

5.82

40
4.56 SEC

bench
14 REPS

vert
43.5 INCH
Top Performer

broad
129.0 INCH
Top Performer

3 cone
6.85 SEC
Top Performer

20 shuttle
4.20 SEC

60 shuttle
11.26 SEC
Top PerformerBLUE STAR = COMBINE TOP PERFORMER


6'1"
HEIGHT

32 1/2"
ARM LENGTH

202LBS.
WEIGHT

9 1/2"
HANDS

OVERVIEW
Utah's secret to football success has been their coaches' ability to find three-star recruits out of California to make the trip to Salt Lake City. Williams, a Corona native, continued that trend and contributed immediately, starting six times as a true freshman (59 tackles, INT, two forced fumbles.) In 2015, he started every game, garnering first-team all-conference (66 tackles, five INT, five pass breakups), and academic all-conference honors (4.0 high school GPA). Williams missed time in 2016 with an injury but still was named second-team All-Pac-12 with 64 tackles, five interceptions and three pass breakups.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Athletic and instinctive from high safety. Easy hips with smooth feet in his backpedal. Able to play from deep positioning and still make plays on the ball. Good recognition of quarterback’s intentions gives him a head-start on the throw. Has desired open-field speed to close from hash to sideline. Former basketball player and high-jumper with the leaping ability and timing to win the 50-50 throws. Posted 10 interceptions against 44 targets over last two seasons. Productive tackler and careful finisher. Steps downhill against the run. Leverages ball carriers to the sideline and rarely lets him cross back over into middle of the field. Gathers feet and widens out to unfurl a wider tackling net.


WEAKNESSES
Needs to add some muscle on his slim frame. More of a finesses safety than hitter. Takes the worst of it in one-on-one tackles. Can be dragged along for additional yardage. Plays with a hitch in his transition from backpedal. Occasionally follows quarterback's eyes too carefully and can be manipulated.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 2-3

NFL COMPARISON Justin Simmons

BOTTOM LINE Ball-hawking free safety who has outstanding ball skills and has shown a propensity for causing turnovers. He can play from a high centerfield spot and utilizes his instincts to swoop down and challenge throws. He's able to get running backs down, but he’s not physical enough to be a combination safety. NFL teams love defensive backs with athletic traits, instincts and ball skills. If he works out well before the draft, he should move up team boards.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:02 PM

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Does this signify Vaccaros leave after this year?

lee909 04-28-2017 07:02 PM

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Not one thing said about the pick

**** You NFL Network

hagan714 04-28-2017 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747366)
Does this signify Vaccaros leave after this year?

no

CheramieIII 04-28-2017 07:03 PM

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wtf

hagan714 04-28-2017 07:03 PM

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I am floored

lee909 04-28-2017 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 747364)
ESPN breaks coverage on our pick, about right!

NFL Network

Litteraly said

Mayock "They got a CB yesterday and need to effect the passer"

Onto Philli

ChrisXVI 04-28-2017 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 747370)
I am floored

That was one of your guys wasn't it?

hagan714 04-28-2017 07:04 PM

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round 3 - 76

Tarell Basham DE Ohio 6036 269 4.70 #93 Sr

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:04 PM

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Hagan; tell me about this pick please... I know nothing about this guy and why safety seemed to be a bigger need than a pass rusher?

CheramieIII 04-28-2017 07:04 PM

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Kenny isn't going anywhere. This adds a lot of support and options for the secondary.

AllSaints 04-28-2017 07:04 PM

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Hmm I guess they don't think Bell can handle the job

frydaddy 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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Zero f's given about the pass rush. Current DB count on team - 964

lee909 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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hagan714 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 747372)
That was one of your guys wasn't it?

Heck yeah baby. we have a deep center fielder to replace Byrd. Top of my list

rezburna 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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....okay.

Utah_Saint 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 747376)
Hmm I guess they don't think Bell can handle the job

Dennis Allen loves three safety sets.

CheramieIII 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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Maybe someone is moving to CB

blackangold 04-28-2017 07:05 PM

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Blown pick... First pick in a bit that I can say that on... Need a good 3rd round now

dizzle88 04-28-2017 07:06 PM

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Payton gives Zero ****s about the front 7, and that will be our downfall and the reason he gets sacked.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:06 PM

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Byrd replacement means less snaps for Bell? or a lot more three safety sets?

WillSaints81 04-28-2017 07:06 PM

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Cam Jordan pretty much hinted earlier in the offseason before FA he wanted corners.

Rugby Saint II 04-28-2017 07:06 PM

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We get so disrespected by the networks. They talk about the pick before us or after us. Either that or they go to commercial. Screw 'em!

lee909 04-28-2017 07:07 PM

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Sheldon come on down


They don't love you in New York



Take the 3rd Jets and go get your QB

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 747387)
We get so disrespected by the networks. They talk about the pick before us or after us. Either that or they go to commercial. Screw 'em!

I thought Mayock did a nice job with our picks yesterday. He seems to be the least biased out of all of them

lee909 04-28-2017 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 747365)
MARCUS WILLIAMSUTAH PAC-12

5.82

40
4.56 SEC

bench
14 REPS

vert
43.5 INCH
Top Performer

broad
129.0 INCH
Top Performer

3 cone
6.85 SEC
Top Performer

20 shuttle
4.20 SEC

60 shuttle
11.26 SEC
Top PerformerBLUE STAR = COMBINE TOP PERFORMER


6'1"
HEIGHT

32 1/2"
ARM LENGTH

202LBS.
WEIGHT

9 1/2"
HANDS

OVERVIEW
Utah's secret to football success has been their coaches' ability to find three-star recruits out of California to make the trip to Salt Lake City. Williams, a Corona native, continued that trend and contributed immediately, starting six times as a true freshman (59 tackles, INT, two forced fumbles.) In 2015, he started every game, garnering first-team all-conference (66 tackles, five INT, five pass breakups), and academic all-conference honors (4.0 high school GPA). Williams missed time in 2016 with an injury but still was named second-team All-Pac-12 with 64 tackles, five interceptions and three pass breakups.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Athletic and instinctive from high safety. Easy hips with smooth feet in his backpedal. Able to play from deep positioning and still make plays on the ball. Good recognition of quarterback’s intentions gives him a head-start on the throw. Has desired open-field speed to close from hash to sideline. Former basketball player and high-jumper with the leaping ability and timing to win the 50-50 throws. Posted 10 interceptions against 44 targets over last two seasons. Productive tackler and careful finisher. Steps downhill against the run. Leverages ball carriers to the sideline and rarely lets him cross back over into middle of the field. Gathers feet and widens out to unfurl a wider tackling net.


WEAKNESSES
Needs to add some muscle on his slim frame. More of a finesses safety than hitter. Takes the worst of it in one-on-one tackles. Can be dragged along for additional yardage. Plays with a hitch in his transition from backpedal. Occasionally follows quarterback's eyes too carefully and can be manipulated.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 2-3

NFL COMPARISON Justin Simmons

BOTTOM LINE Ball-hawking free safety who has outstanding ball skills and has shown a propensity for causing turnovers. He can play from a high centerfield spot and utilizes his instincts to swoop down and challenge throws. He's able to get running backs down, but he’s not physical enough to be a combination safety. NFL teams love defensive backs with athletic traits, instincts and ball skills. If he works out well before the draft, he should move up team boards.




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hagan714 04-28-2017 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747374)
Hagan; tell me about this pick please... I know nothing about this guy and why safety seemed to be a bigger need than a pass rusher?

Insticts are incredibly solid and he has great hands. One of the best tackling S in the draft to boot. Not a huge hitter but does not miss tackles.

DA can put him deep and turn the dogs loose.

Pass rush I want

Tarell Basham DE Ohio 6036 269 4.70 #93 Sr

Rugby Saint II 04-28-2017 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747389)
I thought Mayock did a nice job with our picks yesterday. He seems to be the least biased out of all of them

True Dat! :bng:

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:09 PM

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so does that mean that he takes Bells place on the field?

frydaddy 04-28-2017 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 747388)
Sheldon come on down


They don't love you in New York



Take the 3rd Jets and go get your QB

If we could pull off that trade I'd feel a lot better about this draft. Kinda curious what his deal is though. Would have to hope it wouldn't be an Albert Haynesworth situation

Beastmode 04-28-2017 07:10 PM

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Fine with it. Our line is nothing to scoff at. Not the best but with a good secondary to compliment it we can have a respectable D. All we really need end of the day.

hagan714 04-28-2017 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747394)
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNFL/stat...08813697744901

so does that mean that he takes Bells place on the field?

Bell? nah different style of Safety. He looks great in the slot up on the line. reminds me a lot of KV. Which is something I did not see in Bells play in college.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:11 PM

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Seer1 04-28-2017 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 747387)
We get so disrespected by the networks. They talk about the pick before us or after us. Either that or they go to commercial. Screw 'em!

Only one way to get even with those ****-tards.....

Championship!

lee909 04-28-2017 07:11 PM

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Mike Triplett‏Verified account @MikeTriplett 16s17 seconds ago
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