Day two draft hangover not as bad as I thought
 

So obviously there were some pretty frustrated fans last night. The Saints drafted safety Marcus Williams in round 2, then moved up and drafted RB Alvin Kamara, LB Alex Anzalone and finished the evening with DE Trey Hendrickson. 4 day two picks.

Out of them all, the move up and trading next year's 2nd round pick to aquire RB Kamara probably left some people salty. Then they followed it up with getting Anzalone, who apparently has a long injury history. No one really had serious issues with the Hendrickson​ pick.

Well as I looked at the entire draft so far, the Saints have picked defense 4 out of 6 picks. Including CB, S, LB and DE. Most of those were spots everyone can agree needed addressed or at least needed depth. The Saints now have 10 LBs on the roster. Quite a few. So the drafting Anzalone seemed odd, especially when everyone said he's was injury plagued.

I did a little research on Anzalone. He was a five star recruit out of HS. And was a leader on his college teams. He's got good size and speed and can play all three LB spots. As far as his his injury history, he had some shoulder issues in college. But hasn't had any problems since 2014. He started last year and was playing really well before breaking his forearm. If his shoulder stuff is taken care of, the forearm is no BFD to me. In fact, I'm kind of excited to see what he can do. It'll be interesting if the flyer the Saints took on him pans out.

I'm actually happy with the rest of the picks. Kamara and Anzalone were the only head scratchers for me at the time. But I see the interest in Anzalone now.

As far as Kamara goes, the only logic that makes sense is they want to have a third down back that's an upgrade over Cadet.

Anyway, like I said, I feel better about it now. The only thing I still don't like was trading the 2nd round pick next year to move up. But it'll be a late 2nd rounder anyway...cause we're going to the playoffs. So **** it!!

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Anzolone was Mayocks 5th best LB, so there is that... And he's supposedly a beast in coverage...

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And the guy broke his forearm last year. Seriously, you can't say he's prone to that. Muscle pulls and joint issues is one thing. A broken forearm is like blaming someone for a car wreck when the other driver hit them. "Well you were at the wrong place at the wrong time so it's your fault". You can't do that. I'm not worried about the forearm.

Anzalone is a bit of a question mark. He could be very good and I think it was worth the flyer on him.

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The problem with drafting is that this players still have to make the roster.

You can get upset all you want or happy they picked your DE but if he doesn't make the roster what is the point?

The RB is and was a need actually. If you look at the backs we have had in the past the one RB missing is... wait for it... wait for it... REGGIE BUSH/Darren Sproles type back. This guy fills that spot, if he makes it.

I am ok with the drat so far. Lets see who makes the cut.

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Keep in mind we also need depth and ST's players that I think these guys will come in and play.

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I have absolutely no issues at all with the draft so far. We appear to have gotten great value at each selection and addressed needs.

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Don't sleep on Kamara. If you follow Mayock, he had him going to the Packers in Rd #1. 39 inch vertical, runs very good routes and solid vision. In a way, reminds me of "Can't guard Mike Thomas" selection from last year. Played for a school that didn't fully use his talents 100%. Untapped potential and value. Could end up as a stronger, faster version of the great Pierre Thomas.

I think Sean Payton has a solid plan for him in this offense.

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Tape I saw made me think of Ellerbe. He is fast too.

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Like this kids speed, catching ability and vision

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Good point. All these late picks seem a good fit for ST which is also a need. Smart, decent skills and no issues.

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For all of the sports science junkies ....

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I keep hearing how fast and strong Anzelone is, but I don't see it. I've watched these video packages several times last night and this morning. Even in his highlight packages, he looks slow and weak. There was only one play that was slightly impressive. I'm afraid he will never become more than a really good special teams guy.

If you watch the Tim Williams video, there are moments that make you gasp. There are plays that you want to see him make in a Saints uni. I can see his speed and ability and can only envision him in the face of Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, and Jameis Winston.

It's only my opinion, but this one seems obvious to me. The Ravens don't usually miss on linebackers, either.

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They didn't move up, they exchanged this year's 7th and next year's 2nd for the pick to get the RB.

Pretty much the chart value for when they took the guy, and if he turns out to be something similar to what Thomas or Sproles was - then no one will question the pick couple of years from now.

It's a roll of a dice like all picks.

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Marcus Williams (UTAH) is a pick I really like. Outside of Hooker, he could be the best FS out of the the 2017 draft.

18 turnovers over the last 3 years. Impressive.

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He and Lattimore should help improve a shaky secondary.

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4.63 in the 40 is pretty quick for a LB...

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I heard quite a bit about Kamara over the past two weeks on NFL Radio. More than one analyst compared him favorably to Sproles without connecting him to the Saints. Beyond Ingram and AD we really didn't have another RB that I felt was able to contribute enough to warrant the roster spot. Kamara could be the piece to bring our offense back to the 2009 and 2011 levels.

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Sitting here listening to Anzalones phone call into the Saints draft show. If nothing else he seems like a smart kid who definitely knows his football. Understands his strengths and weaknesses, but is willing to play wherever he is needed to the best of his ability.

I'm interested in seeing him on the field in the preseason!

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I'm happy with the draft so far. We didn't draft a QB and thus my computer lived to see another day.

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Why pass on Malik Mcdowell @ 32 to draft a tackle that probably would have been there for us in the 2nd round.....Trey from FAU we waited for a PR but hopped on the O-linemen early...they must really think we are solidified at DE

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Maybe some of the picks aren't as bad as they look, but it's no denying we missed on some serious talent

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Bloody Mary's are good for hangovers. :p

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FIFY

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I think Payton is just in denial, either that or he's completely blind to the notion we've been getting beat up front for the last 3-4 years.

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Sooooooo..... CHAMPIONSHIP! :bng:

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The Goal Line Leap for a TD just became easy.

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Except Roger'll smack his pee pee for doing that... This year the players will have to change into a suit and tie and carry the ball in a brief case to enter the end zone as the No Fun League is taking it to the next level.

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Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out? MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured. Cadet just resigned and Lassco is only in his 2nd year. AP just signed a 2 yr deal and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft. Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trad him aft r his best season to get the max?

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Marcus Murphy ... I think he has to have a stellar training camp and pre season if he intends to make the final 53.

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I forgot about him. That makes 7 in the backfield.

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I can damn near assure y'all one thing. Kamara is a lock to make the team; giving up next years 2nd round pick, he better be!

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Ingram is going nowhere. Murphy and Cadet just became completely expendable. They each had their chances to fit the Sproles/Bush position and failed. They are immediately made obsolete with the addition of Kamara.

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Wow! I see a little bit of Sproles in him...

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I don't think Ramczyk woulda been there at 42. Packers, Seahawks, Jags, and Cardinals desperately needed Oline help.

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Exactly. Keep in mind that Michael Mauti is going through a grueling bout with an intestinal disease. He's lost a lot of weight, and as much as I hope he comes back full strength, there is no guarantee he'll even really make it back.

And Kikaha is coming off another blown out knee. So there's another question mark. Maybe the reason for drafting another LB is to make sure we have solid depth for ST and for backups in the event one or both of those guys (along with regular injuries) can't make it back.

And I don't think anyone needs to wonder about Ellerbe. Good hell, that guy is great when he's on the field.....it just isn't that often.

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You mean Michael Mauti? He's been going through the intestinal disease?

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Diz...If you look up there I had Mauti. You obviously changed it when you quoted my post to make me look stupid. You, sir....have failed once again! Frickin Diz always trying to make me look ridiculous so you can look cool. Get over it Diz!!

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Haha damn!! I...i....i...i would have got it away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling edit button!!

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DE Al-Quadin Muhammad i checked in for this?

Character red flags = hasn't played football in two of the last three seasons.
Sluggish
Offers very little presence as edge rusher

i gotta look for some thing positive. hope?

the last and i mean the last player i thought they would draft.

I did not want him as an UDFA

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Hope he has changed and is ready to put in the work.