Undrafted Free Agent Watch

voodooido · 04-29-2017, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Pipkin went somewhere else. Here's the list:

The Sports Daily > The Saints Nation
SAINTS 2017 UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT CLASS
Posted by Andrew Juge on April 29, 2017
Here is the UDFA class of 2017, we will continue to update this list as more names come in:

Travin Dural, WR, LSU

Devaroe Lawrence, DT, Auburn

Andrew Lauderdale, T, New Hampshire

Sae Tautu, LB, BYU

Cameron Lee, G, Illinois State

Arthur Maulet, CB, Memphis

Collin Buchanan, T, Miami OH

Cameron Tom, C, Southern Miss

Ahmad Fulwood, WR, Florida

Chase Dominguez, LS, Utah

John Robinson-Woodgett, FB, UMass

I actually see a few that could make the team. Impressive list.

burningmetal · 04-29-2017, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

LSU Player signed

Stop crying now

Saints Nation Blog‏ @SaintsNationBlg 24s25 seconds ago
More
Saints sign LSU WR Travin Dural!

They've done that before with UDFA's. There are no strings attacked at this stage, so they will sign anyone. It's the impactful players that are all over the NFL that it would have been nice to have maybe one of them.

Dural is nice sign for a free agent. Tons of speed, but never was consistent at much of anything else. He could have put up better numbers if the QB play had been decent, but he still has a lot to work on at being an actual WR, and not just a guy who runs deep.

I see that someone had him with a 4.57 40 time. I don't know who did that or what was wrong with their stop watch, because he has run in the low 4.4's, and I believe even sub 4.4 before. He must not have been healthy when he ran that 4.57.

burningmetal · 04-29-2017, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We can debate about these UDFAs all we want but they are all PS fodder.

Yeah, UDFA's never makes active rosters, much less contribute. Pierre Thomas and Lance Moore are surely proof of that.

Some guys make immediate impacts, while others might take a year or so, but there are diamonds in the rough among free agents.

brees84 · 04-29-2017, 10:49 PM

Sae Tautu, LB, BYU

This guy is interesting.

Pro day numbers:

•40-yard dash - 4.55 seconds
•225 bench - 19 reps
•Vertical jump - 38.5 inches
•Broad jump - 10-foot-6
•20-yard shuttle - 4.41 seconds
•60-yard shuttle - 11.60 seconds
•3-cone drill - 6.92 seconds

jnormand · 04-29-2017, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Yeah, UDFA's never makes active rosters, much less contribute. Pierre Thomas and Lance Moore are surely proof of that.

Some guys make immediate impacts, while others might take a year or so, but there are diamonds in the rough among free agents.

Wasn't Snead? And Tommylee the Flea made the team last year. And wasn't Coleman? Hey there's lots of stuff out there. Sometimes they're like PT, sometimes they never make it to the 53. But sometimes they make the team and turn out to be solid!

Utah_Saint · 04-29-2017, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Cant get enough of those polynesian

Come visit Utah.

Beastmode · 04-30-2017, 12:24 AM

This is where we make our money. Drafts are our Manchester by the Sea. Depressing and hopeless. Bet we find a speedy WR that not only takes the top off but out plays Cooks. Then some nobody defender ends up making half the tackles in PS.

burningmetal · 04-30-2017, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Wasn't Snead? And Tommylee the Flea made the team last year. And wasn't Coleman? Hey there's lots of stuff out there. Sometimes they're like PT, sometimes they never make it to the 53. But sometimes they make the team and turn out to be solid!

Yeah Snead was, too. I didn't mention players like Coleman and Tommylee because they're kind of on the roster by default, right now. But yeah, it takes a short memory for someone to say that UDFA's are just practice squad fodder. They have just as much chance of making the team as a late round pick. You gotta get a little lucky, but there are good one's out there.

I always prefer our UDFA class over our picks in the 5th through 7th rounds (with some exceptions, obviously). They draft guys who either barely played, or have some kind of major issues in the late rounds, and then suddenly, when the draft is over, they find productive college players. I've always believed in production over "upside", unless the player with upside has actually demonstrated an ability on the field and not just gone to the combine and run all kinds of pointless drills, and wowed scouts, while having been extremely lackluster on the field.

hagan714 · 04-30-2017, 05:40 AM

UDFA

I’Tavius Mathers RB/KR Middle Tenn St. 5107 203 4.41
Jamari Staples, WR/KR Louisville 6027 195 4.51 #2 rSr
Detroit - Michael Rector WR Stanford 6004 193 4.42 #3 rSr
Dallas - Blake Jarwin TE Oklahoma St. 6050 244 4.76 #47 rSr
Auclair, Antony TE 6'6" 254 Laval (Canada)

OL
Jessamen Dunker OG Tenn St 6042 318 4.98 #66 rSr.
Aviante Collins OG TCU 6042 295 4.81 #69 rSr
Gavin Andrews OG/C Oregon St. 6047 339 5.25 #62 rSr
Detroit - Storm Norton, OT, Toledo 6075 308 5.18 #74 rSr
Steven Moore ROT/LOT California 6052 305 5.31 #64 rSr
Daniel Brunskill OT/TE/ILB San Diego State 6051 270 4.88 rSr #71

DL
Josh Toupu DT Colorado 6011 325 5.22 #55 rSr
Ralph Green III DT Indiana 6036 320 5.14 #93 rSr
Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga 6030 274 4.86 #93 rSr

LB
Jimmy Gilbert OLB Colorado 6036 225 4.74 #98 Sr
Patriots - Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.62 #21 rSr

DB
Browns - Channing Stribling CB/FS Michigan 6011 176 4.57 #8 Sr
Jeremy Cutrer CB/FS Middle Tennesse 6011 170 4.49 #8 Sr
David Jones FS/SS/KR Richmond 6015 210 4.53 #13 rSr
Browns - Kai Nacua, FS/SS, BYU 6005 209 4.58 #12 Sr
Patriots - Jason Thompson, FS, Utah 6014 210 4.45 #21 rSr

not one of my better years

Still got camp invites

dizzle88 · 04-30-2017, 08:01 AM

I think this guy makes the team, Saints always do well with undrafted WR's.

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04-29-2017, 10:08 PM	#51
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Pipkin went somewhere else. Here's the list: The Sports Daily > The Saints Nation SAINTS 2017 UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT CLASS Posted by Andrew Juge on April 29, 2017 Here is the UDFA class of 2017, we will continue to update this list as more names come in: Travin Dural, WR, LSU Devaroe Lawrence, DT, Auburn Andrew Lauderdale, T, New Hampshire Sae Tautu, LB, BYU Cameron Lee, G, Illinois State Arthur Maulet, CB, Memphis Collin Buchanan, T, Miami OH Cameron Tom, C, Southern Miss Ahmad Fulwood, WR, Florida Chase Dominguez, LS, Utah John Robinson-Woodgett, FB, UMass I actually see a few that could make the team. Impressive list.
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04-29-2017, 10:17 PM	#52
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by lee909 LSU Player signed Stop crying now Saints Nation Blog‏ @SaintsNationBlg 24s25 seconds ago More Saints sign LSU WR Travin Dural! They've done that before with UDFA's. There are no strings attacked at this stage, so they will sign anyone. It's the impactful players that are all over the NFL that it would have been nice to have maybe one of them. Dural is nice sign for a free agent. Tons of speed, but never was consistent at much of anything else. He could have put up better numbers if the QB play had been decent, but he still has a lot to work on at being an actual WR, and not just a guy who runs deep. I see that someone had him with a 4.57 40 time. I don't know who did that or what was wrong with their stop watch, because he has run in the low 4.4's, and I believe even sub 4.4 before. He must not have been healthy when he ran that 4.57.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-29-2017, 10:39 PM	#53
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We can debate about these UDFAs all we want but they are all PS fodder. Yeah, UDFA's never makes active rosters, much less contribute. Pierre Thomas and Lance Moore are surely proof of that. Some guys make immediate impacts, while others might take a year or so, but there are diamonds in the rough among free agents.

04-29-2017, 10:49 PM	#54
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Sae Tautu, LB, BYU This guy is interesting. Pro day numbers: •40-yard dash - 4.55 seconds •225 bench - 19 reps •Vertical jump - 38.5 inches •Broad jump - 10-foot-6 •20-yard shuttle - 4.41 seconds •60-yard shuttle - 11.60 seconds •3-cone drill - 6.92 seconds hagan714 likes this.
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04-29-2017, 11:49 PM	#56
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by lee909 Cant get enough of those polynesian Come visit Utah. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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04-29-2017, 10:49 PM	#55
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by burningmetal Yeah, UDFA's never makes active rosters, much less contribute. Pierre Thomas and Lance Moore are surely proof of that. Some guys make immediate impacts, while others might take a year or so, but there are diamonds in the rough among free agents. Wasn't Snead? And Tommylee the Flea made the team last year. And wasn't Coleman? Hey there's lots of stuff out there. Sometimes they're like PT, sometimes they never make it to the 53. But sometimes they make the team and turn out to be solid! hagan714 likes this.

04-30-2017, 12:24 AM	#57
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch This is where we make our money. Drafts are our Manchester by the Sea. Depressing and hopeless. Bet we find a speedy WR that not only takes the top off but out plays Cooks. Then some nobody defender ends up making half the tackles in PS. jeanpierre likes this.
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04-30-2017, 12:49 AM	#58
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch Originally Posted by jnormand Wasn't Snead? And Tommylee the Flea made the team last year. And wasn't Coleman? Hey there's lots of stuff out there. Sometimes they're like PT, sometimes they never make it to the 53. But sometimes they make the team and turn out to be solid! Yeah Snead was, too. I didn't mention players like Coleman and Tommylee because they're kind of on the roster by default, right now. But yeah, it takes a short memory for someone to say that UDFA's are just practice squad fodder. They have just as much chance of making the team as a late round pick. You gotta get a little lucky, but there are good one's out there. I always prefer our UDFA class over our picks in the 5th through 7th rounds (with some exceptions, obviously). They draft guys who either barely played, or have some kind of major issues in the late rounds, and then suddenly, when the draft is over, they find productive college players. I've always believed in production over "upside", unless the player with upside has actually demonstrated an ability on the field and not just gone to the combine and run all kinds of pointless drills, and wowed scouts, while having been extremely lackluster on the field. jnormand likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-30-2017, 05:40 AM	#59
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Undrafted Free Agent Watch UDFA I’Tavius Mathers RB/KR Middle Tenn St. 5107 203 4.41 Jamari Staples, WR/KR Louisville 6027 195 4.51 #2 rSr Detroit - Michael Rector WR Stanford 6004 193 4.42 #3 rSr Dallas - Blake Jarwin TE Oklahoma St. 6050 244 4.76 #47 rSr Auclair, Antony TE 6'6" 254 Laval (Canada) OL Jessamen Dunker OG Tenn St 6042 318 4.98 #66 rSr. Aviante Collins OG TCU 6042 295 4.81 #69 rSr Gavin Andrews OG/C Oregon St. 6047 339 5.25 #62 rSr Detroit - Storm Norton, OT, Toledo 6075 308 5.18 #74 rSr Steven Moore ROT/LOT California 6052 305 5.31 #64 rSr Daniel Brunskill OT/TE/ILB San Diego State 6051 270 4.88 rSr #71 DL Josh Toupu DT Colorado 6011 325 5.22 #55 rSr Ralph Green III DT Indiana 6036 320 5.14 #93 rSr Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga 6030 274 4.86 #93 rSr LB Jimmy Gilbert OLB Colorado 6036 225 4.74 #98 Sr Patriots - Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.62 #21 rSr DB Browns - Channing Stribling CB/FS Michigan 6011 176 4.57 #8 Sr Jeremy Cutrer CB/FS Middle Tennesse 6011 170 4.49 #8 Sr David Jones FS/SS/KR Richmond 6015 210 4.53 #13 rSr Browns - Kai Nacua, FS/SS, BYU 6005 209 4.58 #12 Sr Patriots - Jason Thompson, FS, Utah 6014 210 4.45 #21 rSr not one of my better years Still got camp invites
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