And so it begins.... Max Unger out

dafyaman · 05-10-2017, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Ingram was drafted before Bush was let go and Ingram did not replace Bush, Sproles did.

Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted.

After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.”

How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.

jnormand · 05-10-2017, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by dafyaman

Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted.

After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.”

How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.

Actually, I forgot about it until you said that. Regardless, I don't believe Ingram is on the chopping block. While I agree with you that Payton doesn't put up with attitude issues, the Cards game is the only time I've heard of anything happening.

Second, Bush was traded because he hadn't played a full season since his rookie year and he wasn't as effective in the offense.

I'm not saying there's no way the Saints don't trade Ingram, I'm saying I don't believe they will and I don't believe they'd bring in Peterson as the guy to "bridge the gap". Sorry man. We needed someone to replace Hightower. Peterson is that guy. I'd be surprised if Ingram was traded. Maybe if we still had Hightower and we signed Peterson. But Ingram is coming off his best year as a Saint. He's run the ball well and been effective in the passing game. Trading him without a proper (and reliable) back up plan would just be irresponsible. And IMHO I don't view a 32 year old running running back that has high mileage and is coming off injuries as "reliable".

WillSaints81 · 05-10-2017, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by dafyaman

Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted.

After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.”

How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.

Ingram is not the style of back Reggie was. How does Ingram replace Bush when Sproles is exactly what Reggie was, but only better. If Ingram replaced Reggie then they would not have gone after Sproles. I mean they already had Ivory and PT.

AsylumGuido · 05-10-2017, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Ingram is not the style of back Reggie was. How does Ingram replace Bush when Sproles is exactly what Reggie was, but only better. If Ingram replaced Reggie then they would not have gone after Sproles. I mean they already had Ivory and PT.

WTF?

Seer1 · 05-11-2017, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

WTF?

No sympathy for you here Guido. You should know better by now...

WillMacKenzie · 05-11-2017, 07:19 AM

I feel like every topic, given enough time will eventually devolve into a discussion about Mark Ingram, kind of like every argument eventually has a mention of Hitler

05-10-2017, 01:01 AM	#1
dafyaman 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 113	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Ingram was drafted before Bush was let go and Ingram did not replace Bush, Sproles did. Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted. After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.” How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.
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05-10-2017, 06:14 AM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,808	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by dafyaman Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted. After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.” How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back. Actually, I forgot about it until you said that. Regardless, I don't believe Ingram is on the chopping block. While I agree with you that Payton doesn't put up with attitude issues, the Cards game is the only time I've heard of anything happening. Second, Bush was traded because he hadn't played a full season since his rookie year and he wasn't as effective in the offense. I'm not saying there's no way the Saints don't trade Ingram, I'm saying I don't believe they will and I don't believe they'd bring in Peterson as the guy to "bridge the gap". Sorry man. We needed someone to replace Hightower. Peterson is that guy. I'd be surprised if Ingram was traded. Maybe if we still had Hightower and we signed Peterson. But Ingram is coming off his best year as a Saint. He's run the ball well and been effective in the passing game. Trading him without a proper (and reliable) back up plan would just be irresponsible. And IMHO I don't view a 32 year old running running back that has high mileage and is coming off injuries as "reliable". SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

05-10-2017, 05:29 PM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by dafyaman Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted. After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.” How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back. Ingram is not the style of back Reggie was. How does Ingram replace Bush when Sproles is exactly what Reggie was, but only better. If Ingram replaced Reggie then they would not have gone after Sproles. I mean they already had Ivory and PT.

05-10-2017, 06:06 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Ingram is not the style of back Reggie was. How does Ingram replace Bush when Sproles is exactly what Reggie was, but only better. If Ingram replaced Reggie then they would not have gone after Sproles. I mean they already had Ivory and PT. WTF?

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by AsylumGuido WTF? No sympathy for you here Guido. You should know better by now...

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out I feel like every topic, given enough time will eventually devolve into a discussion about Mark Ingram, kind of like every argument eventually has a mention of Hitler jnormand likes this.

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