GumboBC

Gruden:
"It's a great division. Atlanta's getting better and better. (Linebacker Ed) Hartwell goes over there, they do a heck of a job coaching, Michael Vick. . . . They're a good team, man. Saints, the personnel is very good there. Great receiver, hell of a running back, and they're a better defensive team than people think. They played much better down the stretch. Carolina gets Kris Jenkins and Steve Smith back, Delhomme's playing great. They're a handful.' "

Mora:
"It's not a glamorous division. It's a hard-hitting division with four teams that are passionate about football. We're like a bunch of street punks fighting each other. Our division's always extremely competitive. We've had the NFC Super Bowl representative in two of the last three years. Looking at each team, New Orleans is always competitive. They were moving up near the end of last season. That's a credit to Jim (Haslett) and his staff, as well as their players. I expect them to be better this season. Foxy (John Fox) really turned around the Panthers after their early problems. They got back into the playoff race with an outstanding effort. I expect them to pick right up where they left off. I know John's not going to take lightly their record since they won the Super Bowl. They've made a lot of changes and should be better."

baronm

guess it sucks for you that two people who know football disagree with you.