Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Unless they are on defense like Hicks, Jenkins, and even PRob

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

No. Actually Graham was pretty disappointed he was out of town. As was Brees.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Exactly. He said it.
And what reasonable person could possibly misinterpret that as anything less than derogatory towards the team?


Oh, and he's 31 and will probably still expects 8 million a year. Pass

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Meh ...

I'd be elated if the Saints FO contacted Larry Fitzgerald's agent before the trade deadline.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

We have an overpaid TE who can't catch on the roster already.

Is there room for another??

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Sean struggled for at least a week by his account on the trade so he obviously values Graham in his offense. If we could have addressed the center position 1-2 seasons before (Olin Kreutz?) he'd still be here. He would not be our #1 like he was IMO however, having him running through the middle of the defense would have to be respected and would take defensive pressure off of the other weapons. I doubt the Saints have any kind of "ban" on bringing him back.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Go for both?

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Payton wanted Unger badly. The original offer included Kenny Stills, but Seattle insisted that Graham was the only player they would consider. Still was moved to Miami soon after. I really don't think anyone wanted Graham gone, including Graham.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

He would immediately solve our problems in the red zone. Why Fleener can't do that is beyond me.
Speaking of Fleener he had a great preseason but it's like we aren't even using the TEs in the passing game at all. A couple of targets but that's it.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

I would rather see us find another young TE in the draft.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

As would I, but if the price is right I'll take him back in a flash.

We're in win now mode and Brees knows how to use JG.

I'm OK with some sort of deal to bring him back, but Captain obvious says don't pay too much!

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

I've wondered about Fleener. I think Sean thought Drew would make him better - I really think that, but whatever it is with the guy is more than even Brees can compensate for. It's too bad - wouldn't bother me to see us cut bait and move on.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

So, the TE is traded away.
Afterwards, he performed poorly.

The team that traded him away has failed to draft, trade for, and otherwise have anything near the same production from another TE.

That means lightning in a bottle happened

Management failed to capitalize on it.

Time Marches On.

JG was soft as chewed bubble gum before he was shipped off.

It is amazing how some re-write the past.

Graham has no place on this Saints team

Member?

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Graham won't be able to contribute like we need him too!

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Looks like the SeaChickens still think he does not fit. They hate his salary cap.

Seahawks.NET - The Voice of the 12th Man! • View topic - Jimmy Graham (My Opinion)

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

We lost Cooks, Snead isn't producing [yet], Thomas is balling.

Coleman, Hill, Fleener, Honamanawui [sp?], Tommylee, etc. are a bunch of meh. We have a running back as our #2 receiver [yes he is amazing].

So, if Kamara gets dinged up we're basically up a creek with only Ingram and Thomas. I don't see how JG does not help the O. Obviously don't overpay or expect him to be 27 years old.

AP got in trouble for whooping his child...JG sent out a tweet and somehow JG is the a-hole?

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

The stat chart shows JG played as good/better last season than he did in 2014 with us. Not the 2011-13 type of play but still more productive than what we have out there.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Ginn is doing way better than most expected and Coleman has looked like a receiver this year too.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Send them Fleener for Graham.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Good point...forgot't about Ginn. Coleman is serviceable...he just does not have the "it" factor of Snead, Thomas, or Kamara.

Maybe we could dangle the AP pick we got and Honomanawui (sp?) out there? Wouldn't be a huge loss.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

This sounds to me like one of those moves that the Saints front office dangles out there, to make sure that folks renew their season tickets for the next year. Because I can tell you that a lot of the people out there right now holding season tickets, are frustrated and are about to cancel and bail on the team (or at least paying to go to the games). There have been times before when the Saints/Loomis have signed a flashy overpriced big name veteran to appeal to casual fans in the "cheap seats," to sell tickets, and other times when they've reached out to "past Saints" and tried to get them back, for pretty obvious nostalgia and fan loyalty purposes. This would be a little of both.

But I think Jimmy Graham would be good fit for the team, since Drew evidently can't throw a ball more than 20+ yards down the field anymore (this was apparent in the Packers game, they were perfectly positioned to throw a Hail Mary to the end zone at the end of the half, but they inexplicably opted to throw a short screen to Ginn.)

Graham can certainly handle the short passes, 10 yards at a time. If that's all we have in the playbook, then I guess we need more of those type of guys to run and turn and catch and get tackled.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

I would entertain the idea of him returning if the price is right. He would command a double team by most defenses which would give somebody man coverage or vacated zone area.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Brandon Coleman leads the team with 3 TD catches thus far. All of them inside the 25 yard line. At 6'6, BC has become the Saints TE in my mind.

For me, Fleener has been a disappointment in Black and Gold.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

I think for everyone Fleener has been a disappoint. Hopefully Fleener knows he's a disappointment.
Again though he looked good in preseason. They just aren't using the TEs much. I guess Payton doesn't trust him to get it done.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

A lot? Trump stats? A lot? What the hell does a lot even mean? More than can be counted on two hands? Do you seriously believe there are more ticket holders out there willing to not buy tickets next year on a current 4-2 team than there are people standing in line in hopes of buying them? Do you seriously believe that somehow ticket sales are anything but the cherry on top of the huge ice cream Sunday (literally) of cash flowing in from the tv revenues and such?

Maybe we could trade Thomas, Snead, Coleman and Ginn for him since that's the only player he'll throw to anyway if they bring him back.

Damn it's fun to rant once in a while!

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

more pot stirring:

Trade talk roundup: Lions' Eric Ebron drawing interest - NFL.com

Fleener straight up Ebron

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

No thanks
No point in trading one pair of stone hands that can somewhat run routes for a TE than can neither run routes or catch

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

After the quick "re watch" of the Bears game ... Cody was open a few times on a post and also in the middle of a soft zone.

This sounds crazy but even at 6'6, Brees probably didn't see the guy or don't trust him.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

More of the later me thinks

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

We need another weapon on offense, and TE is the spot to fill the void.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Exactly. Especially in the red zone. Not saying bring him back but I wish Fleener would step up and be reliable English to jump up and get the ball in the end zone,

Hill isn't 👀 NG bad but he's more of a downfield guy and across the middle.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

This scenario probably won't happen but if any TE was brought in, I'd like Eric Ebron from the Lions. Detroit spreads the ball around ... maybe Fleener could help them?

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

I don't think so. He has been playing very well.

Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018?
 

And that's a wrap.