John Clayton out at ESPN

Beastmode · 05-31-2017, 09:13 AM

Sports is not diverse. NFL, NBA both close to 80% black. There is no room for color and sexual orientation conversations on the field today because BEST athlete gets the job.

Anything outside of sports has to work with requirements to include a percentage of whites, blacks, disadvantaged women businesses, immigrants inclusion, Veterans...no room for any of that on the field / court. It's the one escape we have where skill is the only thing that matters. If you can't run fast you get beat, weaker you get beat, dumb get beat.

neugey · 05-31-2017, 10:44 AM

Just as MTV lost their way and forgot about music, ESPN is losing their way forgetting about sports.

I usually go to their site for a few quick headlines, but no more after the way they handled this Tiger Woods thing. Possibly the worst reporting I've ever seen.

jeanpierre · 05-31-2017, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Just as MTV lost their way and forgot about music, ESPN is losing their way forgetting about sports.

I usually go to their site for a few quick headlines, but no more after the way they handled this Tiger Woods thing. Possibly the worst reporting I've ever seen.

ESPN Entertainment Sports PoliticallyCorrect Network?!?

MatthewT · 05-31-2017, 11:04 AM

Doesn't make one difference to me, I've been done with ESPN for a very long time. Basically a few Monday Night Football games and that's pretty much it.

Beastmode · 05-31-2017, 11:23 AM

Market changed fairly swift. Streaming services, people care less about sports, focused on movies /shows. And nobody thought antenna TV would make a comeback but it did. 5% uptick since 2014.

Then they are improving the antenna signal to 4K in a couple of years and it appears all free stations will be available online and capable of watching anywhere on any device. Big hit to NFL / ESPN and everyone else if that is the case.

triman · 05-31-2017, 11:49 AM

The Crypt Keeper is gone

Beastmode · 05-31-2017, 11:53 AM

I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game.

K Major · 05-31-2017, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge.

Kodi - sports devil Add on?

turbo_dog · 05-31-2017, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game.

Care to share some details, friend?

Euphoria · 05-31-2017, 01:15 PM

Also take into account all the staff they employed getting fat checks for 15 minutes of air time. Make a phone call to a team and then jump on camera and talk what the conversations was about and go home and collect a couple mil.

They were clearly over spending and not getting the bang for their buck.

They certainly could have cut back. Plus now days they did use the MTV model thought went from just annoucing and showing sports to programming. All of the BS commentary and game shows WTF is all that about.

05-31-2017, 09:13 AM	#1
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05-31-2017, 10:44 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Just as MTV lost their way and forgot about music, ESPN is losing their way forgetting about sports. I usually go to their site for a few quick headlines, but no more after the way they handled this Tiger Woods thing. Possibly the worst reporting I've ever seen.

05-31-2017, 10:51 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by neugey Just as MTV lost their way and forgot about music, ESPN is losing their way forgetting about sports. I usually go to their site for a few quick headlines, but no more after the way they handled this Tiger Woods thing. Possibly the worst reporting I've ever seen. ESPN Entertainment Sports PoliticallyCorrect Network?!? Twitter

05-31-2017, 11:04 AM	#4
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Doesn't make one difference to me, I've been done with ESPN for a very long time. Basically a few Monday Night Football games and that's pretty much it. RockyMountainSaint, Beastmode and ChrisXVI like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Market changed fairly swift. Streaming services, people care less about sports, focused on movies /shows. And nobody thought antenna TV would make a comeback but it did. 5% uptick since 2014. Then they are improving the antenna signal to 4K in a couple of years and it appears all free stations will be available online and capable of watching anywhere on any device. Big hit to NFL / ESPN and everyone else if that is the case. saintfan and SmashMouth like this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by Beastmode I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. Kodi - sports devil Add on?

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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,701	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by Beastmode I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game. Care to share some details, friend? K Major likes this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Also take into account all the staff they employed getting fat checks for 15 minutes of air time. Make a phone call to a team and then jump on camera and talk what the conversations was about and go home and collect a couple mil. They were clearly over spending and not getting the bang for their buck. They certainly could have cut back. Plus now days they did use the MTV model thought went from just annoucing and showing sports to programming. All of the BS commentary and game shows WTF is all that about.

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