Brooks is Jeff George... or is he?

CheramieIII · 03-29-2005, 04:45 PM

Hey Who, see what you got started!!!

:yourock:

4saintspirit · 03-29-2005, 04:50 PM

I guess you are correct in saying that AB has a chance to win something -- but to say AB has more arm strength than George -- sorry -- and as for the average QBs with better stas -- since George (as proven in the first post of this thread) has much better stats than AB what does that say about AB. Also -- I did not say George was a good QB -- I said he had talent and could throw a ball you would not believe -- I use him to say that arm strength and accuracy is not the only things a QB needs -- he had them and still was a loser -- his heart and attitude sucked.

As for Marino -- I do not even know how to respond to your comment --were you joking -- must have been because Marino is a hall of famer and will always be considered one of the best QBs in the game.

GoldenTomb · 03-29-2005, 04:56 PM

OK Golden what did JG or DM win in their NFL careers, NOTHING!

I don\'t need to say anymore. Dan Marino had how many years with the phins to win and could not do it at least once. Anyone could have accomplished his records as long as they had a right arm attached to there body. He was a product of a system and nothing more.

JG was a joke, bust if you will!!!

No further discussion needed..

:soleil:

OK I\'ll give you that....and Brooks can\'t even approach George\'s numbers with a better supporting cast and a \"stronger arm\" in your own words.

Doesn\'t say much for him, does it?

CheramieIII · 03-29-2005, 05:04 PM

AB will win a superbowl, neither JG or DM were close and that ends the HOF discussion.

I think we put way to many players in the HOF. It used to be an elite faternity and now it\'s just whoever votes them in, should\'nt there be some criteria, I think so and Dan Marino would only get in because of the numbers not because he was a super QB.

GoldenTomb · 03-29-2005, 05:11 PM

That\'s not very fair. You\'re saying that a QB has to win a Super Bowl to get into the HOF??? Awww man....so you think that TRENT DILFER and KURT WARNER should be considered for the Hall before Marino. I\'ve heard it all now!!!
Stan Humphries should be in the Hall but Marino shouldn\'t....riiiiight.

Now do they actually have to win it or merely go to the Super Bowl????

What about RBs??

I guess Barry Sanders should be stripped of his Hall of Fame status, because he never got to the big one either. Put Natrone Means in his spot.

CheramieIII · 03-29-2005, 05:27 PM

No, that is not what I am saying. I was justing making a general comment that too many players who really had no accomplishments other than longevity made it to the HOF.

I was only responding to your statement about DM and the HOF.

I also believe BS does\'nt deserve it. He quit after he thought he made enough yardage to enter the HOF. Jim Brown puts all other RB HOF\'s to shame, no question. That\'s not what it is for, it\'s for players that excel throughout their careers, not for anyone who thinks they have done enough and just QUIT!!!

WhoDat · 03-29-2005, 06:52 PM

Time out. So the argument here is that Jeff George never won anything, and therefore AB is a better QB? What the F has AB won? Oh, it\'s his POTENTIAL? George didn\'t have potential? C\'mon Cherm, I would expect a military man to do better than that. What are you, a tank gunner? Been rocked a few too many times? LOL.

Kidding man.

CheramieIII · 03-29-2005, 07:02 PM

I will say that it has nothing to do with winning the superbowl but everything to do with it?

If a QB played on a team and had no supporting cast like Archie that is one thing, but if the QB has a decent team, like DM than that would be different? Would you not agree. Longevity means nothing unless you play for 30 years.

saintz08 · 03-30-2005, 12:58 AM

Great comment on Brooks .....

His Game
Aaron isn\'t nearly as fast or elusive as his cousin Michael Vick, but he\'s no slouch when he takes off with the football. We\'re happy that Aaron cut down his interception total, but only Richard Hatch of \"Survivor\" fame has skipped balls off the grass more often than Brooks.

http://www.fanball.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm?pid=1076

As to the great arm strength debate , here is what it gets you ....

\"Why are you taking me out?\" George asked. \"I can win this game.\"

\"I know you can, but we\'re not moving the football,\" Marchibroda said.

It\'s really no different than his ending in Minnesota. George knows he can make enough throws to win a championship. But the losses and the lack of his development beyond just being a thrower has been his downfall.

Last week, George spoke out about being benched in the Redskins\' opener and said leadership is overrated.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayt...n/1255697.html

Great arm and a lack of leadership

Brooks is this eras Jeff George ....

saintz08 · 03-30-2005, 09:05 PM

We\'re happy that Aaron cut down his interception total, but only Richard Hatch of \"Survivor\" fame has skipped balls off the grass more often than Brooks.

A comment like this and not even a chirp from Saintfan , guess the man has just come to accept it .....

03-29-2005, 04:45 PM	#31
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03-29-2005, 04:50 PM	#32
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? I guess you are correct in saying that AB has a chance to win something -- but to say AB has more arm strength than George -- sorry -- and as for the average QBs with better stas -- since George (as proven in the first post of this thread) has much better stats than AB what does that say about AB. Also -- I did not say George was a good QB -- I said he had talent and could throw a ball you would not believe -- I use him to say that arm strength and accuracy is not the only things a QB needs -- he had them and still was a loser -- his heart and attitude sucked. As for Marino -- I do not even know how to respond to your comment --were you joking -- must have been because Marino is a hall of famer and will always be considered one of the best QBs in the game.
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03-29-2005, 04:56 PM	#33
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? OK Golden what did JG or DM win in their NFL careers, NOTHING! I don\'t need to say anymore. Dan Marino had how many years with the phins to win and could not do it at least once. Anyone could have accomplished his records as long as they had a right arm attached to there body. He was a product of a system and nothing more. JG was a joke, bust if you will!!! No further discussion needed.. :soleil: OK I\'ll give you that....and Brooks can\'t even approach George\'s numbers with a better supporting cast and a \"stronger arm\" in your own words. Doesn\'t say much for him, does it?
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03-29-2005, 05:04 PM	#34
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? AB will win a superbowl, neither JG or DM were close and that ends the HOF discussion. I think we put way to many players in the HOF. It used to be an elite faternity and now it\'s just whoever votes them in, should\'nt there be some criteria, I think so and Dan Marino would only get in because of the numbers not because he was a super QB.

03-29-2005, 05:11 PM	#35
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? That\'s not very fair. You\'re saying that a QB has to win a Super Bowl to get into the HOF??? Awww man....so you think that TRENT DILFER and KURT WARNER should be considered for the Hall before Marino. I\'ve heard it all now!!! Stan Humphries should be in the Hall but Marino shouldn\'t....riiiiight. Now do they actually have to win it or merely go to the Super Bowl???? What about RBs?? I guess Barry Sanders should be stripped of his Hall of Fame status, because he never got to the big one either. Put Natrone Means in his spot.
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03-29-2005, 06:52 PM	#37
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? Time out. So the argument here is that Jeff George never won anything, and therefore AB is a better QB? What the F has AB won? Oh, it\'s his POTENTIAL? George didn\'t have potential? C\'mon Cherm, I would expect a military man to do better than that. What are you, a tank gunner? Been rocked a few too many times? LOL. Kidding man.
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03-29-2005, 07:02 PM	#38
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? I will say that it has nothing to do with winning the superbowl but everything to do with it? If a QB played on a team and had no supporting cast like Archie that is one thing, but if the QB has a decent team, like DM than that would be different? Would you not agree. Longevity means nothing unless you play for 30 years.

03-30-2005, 12:58 AM	#39
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? Great comment on Brooks ..... His Game Aaron isn\'t nearly as fast or elusive as his cousin Michael Vick, but he\'s no slouch when he takes off with the football. We\'re happy that Aaron cut down his interception total, but only Richard Hatch of \"Survivor\" fame has skipped balls off the grass more often than Brooks. http://www.fanball.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm?pid=1076 As to the great arm strength debate , here is what it gets you .... \"Why are you taking me out?\" George asked. \"I can win this game.\" \"I know you can, but we\'re not moving the football,\" Marchibroda said. It\'s really no different than his ending in Minnesota. George knows he can make enough throws to win a championship. But the losses and the lack of his development beyond just being a thrower has been his downfall. Last week, George spoke out about being benched in the Redskins\' opener and said leadership is overrated. http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayt...n/1255697.html Great arm and a lack of leadership Brooks is this eras Jeff George ....
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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Brooks is Jeff George... or is he? We\'re happy that Aaron cut down his interception total, but only Richard Hatch of \"Survivor\" fame has skipped balls off the grass more often than Brooks. A comment like this and not even a chirp from Saintfan , guess the man has just come to accept it .....
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