Fairley has possible career ending heart condition

jeanpierre · 06-08-2017, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

He seemed to finally hit his niche so it has to be crushing to be that good of a player knowing you were about to go into another season playing a game you love. Glad he's focusing on his health though. Any chance we kick the tires on Vince Wilfork?

Wilfork? So he could drop dead of a heart attach on a nationally televised game and be the first casualty in the modern era of professional football?!?

Even Belichick let Wilfork go because of how much mass & ass he'd swole...

Seriously, even without Fairley, we're looking at a talented, young rotation of Rankins, Davison, Onyemata, Zimmer and maybe Maybry - that's not too bad...

We're not gonna find a free agent who could be an improvement over what we've got on the roster now...

Papa Voodoo · 06-08-2017, 03:21 PM

I agree we still have talent, but it appears Nick won't be on the roster. Wilfork came to mind then I looked at his numbers....the Texans D was good but he was not. Tony McDaniel?

ScottF · 06-08-2017, 03:25 PM

Might come down to this:

Non-Football Injury List (NFI) – This list is available for players who are injured or have an illness that is not related to football activities. The NFL and NFLPA have agreed that any injury – even workout or conditioning injuries – that occur away from the team’s facilities are considered “Non-football”. If a player is placed in NFI, he will not be paid while he remains on NFI. NFI works similarly to PUP, in that the player must sit out the first 6 weeks of the season and cannot practice with the time during that time. After week 6, the player can practice with the team for 3 weeks and must be activated to the 53-man roster by week 9. If the player isn’t ready to return by week 9, he can remain on NFI or be placed on IR. If he remains on NFI, he continues to be unpaid. If he is placed on IR, he will be paid for the remainder of the season.

jeanpierre · 06-08-2017, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I agree we still have talent, but it appears Nick won't be on the roster. Wilfork came to mind then I looked at his numbers....the Texans D was good but he was not. Tony McDaniel?

Post Mandatory Mini-camp will probably be the first time-frame that the Saints personnel decision makers even seriously assess the roster and have discussions if they need another 3-tech or NT...

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2017, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

A third opinion? Oh boy ... Nick is a competitor, beast like in his approach on the field but damn this is his overall health. If Doctors/Specialist are advising him to cease all football activity, I think it's time to strongly consider retirement and the next chapter in his life. I know Nick is probably crushed with the thought of not playing anymore but we are talking about the human heart (see Hank Gathers), not a torn ACL or forearm.

I'm praying for you sir .

The Hank Gathers scenario really isn't the same at all. As long as the condition is known it can be treated. Gathers' condition wasn't known until after his death. If they had known, measures could have been taken to allow him to play safely.

jeanpierre · 06-08-2017, 04:33 PM

K Major · 06-08-2017, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Hank Gathers scenario really isn't the same at all. As long as the condition is known it can be treated. Gathers' condition wasn't known until after his death. If they had known, measures could have been taken to allow him to play safely.

Hank had a congenital heart defect called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy which was prescribed prior to his death. As for Nick, apparently he saw a doctor who discovered something either new or old that was concerning enough to keep him away from a football field & now hearing team mates not being able to contact via phone. Red flags ... I used Gathers name because he was a notable athlete who had heart concerns (enlarged heart/rhythm abnormalities).

I'm prepared for the worst but hoping for the best with Nick and his health.

WillMacKenzie · 06-08-2017, 05:00 PM

Probably misspoke when they said "enlarged heart." Enlarged heart is a general term that is most often the result of heart failure. Unlikely but not impossible.

They probably mean hypertrophied heart, in which the myocardium thickens past normal variance to the point where the it causes the chambers to reduce in size.

The smaller heart chambers can't efficiently pump the amount of blood the body requires, so it tries to compensate by increasing the heart rate. Anyway, eventually it will wear out and/or could develop an arrhythmia trying to keep up with the demand. (Which at these later stages if left untreated will lead to heart failure, and subsequent "enlargement" of the heart.)

Either way, not as easy to deal with as holes in the heart.

K Major · 06-08-2017, 05:09 PM

From any angle, this is serious.

spkb25 · 06-08-2017, 05:31 PM

So Nick's career is over, do we still have to pay him?

Good luck staying healthy Nick, this doesn't sound good at all.

06-08-2017, 03:05 PM	#51
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo He seemed to finally hit his niche so it has to be crushing to be that good of a player knowing you were about to go into another season playing a game you love. Glad he's focusing on his health though. Any chance we kick the tires on Vince Wilfork? Wilfork? So he could drop dead of a heart attach on a nationally televised game and be the first casualty in the modern era of professional football?!? Even Belichick let Wilfork go because of how much mass & ass he'd swole... Seriously, even without Fairley, we're looking at a talented, young rotation of Rankins, Davison, Onyemata, Zimmer and maybe Maybry - that's not too bad... We're not gonna find a free agent who could be an improvement over what we've got on the roster now...

06-08-2017, 03:21 PM	#52
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition I agree we still have talent, but it appears Nick won't be on the roster. Wilfork came to mind then I looked at his numbers....the Texans D was good but he was not. Tony McDaniel?

06-08-2017, 03:25 PM	#53
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Might come down to this: Non-Football Injury List (NFI) – This list is available for players who are injured or have an illness that is not related to football activities. The NFL and NFLPA have agreed that any injury – even workout or conditioning injuries – that occur away from the team’s facilities are considered “Non-football”. If a player is placed in NFI, he will not be paid while he remains on NFI. NFI works similarly to PUP, in that the player must sit out the first 6 weeks of the season and cannot practice with the time during that time. After week 6, the player can practice with the team for 3 weeks and must be activated to the 53-man roster by week 9. If the player isn’t ready to return by week 9, he can remain on NFI or be placed on IR. If he remains on NFI, he continues to be unpaid. If he is placed on IR, he will be paid for the remainder of the season. SmashMouth likes this.

06-08-2017, 04:06 PM	#54
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I agree we still have talent, but it appears Nick won't be on the roster. Wilfork came to mind then I looked at his numbers....the Texans D was good but he was not. Tony McDaniel? Post Mandatory Mini-camp will probably be the first time-frame that the Saints personnel decision makers even seriously assess the roster and have discussions if they need another 3-tech or NT...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Originally Posted by K Major A third opinion? Oh boy ... Nick is a competitor, beast like in his approach on the field but damn this is his overall health. If Doctors/Specialist are advising him to cease all football activity, I think it's time to strongly consider retirement and the next chapter in his life. I know Nick is probably crushed with the thought of not playing anymore but we are talking about the human heart (see Hank Gathers), not a torn ACL or forearm. I'm praying for you sir . The Hank Gathers scenario really isn't the same at all. As long as the condition is known it can be treated. Gathers' condition wasn't known until after his death. If they had known, measures could have been taken to allow him to play safely.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Hank Gathers scenario really isn't the same at all. As long as the condition is known it can be treated. Gathers' condition wasn't known until after his death. If they had known, measures could have been taken to allow him to play safely. Hank had a congenital heart defect called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy which was prescribed prior to his death. As for Nick, apparently he saw a doctor who discovered something either new or old that was concerning enough to keep him away from a football field & now hearing team mates not being able to contact via phone. Red flags ... I used Gathers name because he was a notable athlete who had heart concerns (enlarged heart/rhythm abnormalities). I'm prepared for the worst but hoping for the best with Nick and his health.

06-08-2017, 05:00 PM	#58
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition Probably misspoke when they said "enlarged heart." Enlarged heart is a general term that is most often the result of heart failure. Unlikely but not impossible. They probably mean hypertrophied heart, in which the myocardium thickens past normal variance to the point where the it causes the chambers to reduce in size. The smaller heart chambers can't efficiently pump the amount of blood the body requires, so it tries to compensate by increasing the heart rate. Anyway, eventually it will wear out and/or could develop an arrhythmia trying to keep up with the demand. (Which at these later stages if left untreated will lead to heart failure, and subsequent "enlargement" of the heart.) Either way, not as easy to deal with as holes in the heart.

06-08-2017, 05:09 PM	#59
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition From any angle, this is serious.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Fairley has possible career ending heart condition So Nick's career is over, do we still have to pay him? Good luck staying healthy Nick, this doesn't sound good at all.

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