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jeanpierre 06-21-2017 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753161)
Pat Kirwan talked about this very scenario yesterday on Movin' the Chains on NFL Radio. He said it is very common that players get frustrated with their agents trying to get so much out of a deal that they begin to lose track of what the player actually wants. At that point other agents start approaching the player and the player fires his agent to get the ball moving again.
Don't believe NFLPA rules allow other agents to contact players while in an existing agreement with an agent...

But I do believe a player may know what's best overall for him and it may be 8.5% less in a total deal, but factoring taxes, local name status and recognition, proximity to family, family being happy in an area, other opportunities, you're definitely right that all that is a factor...

Lance Moore just disappeared once he left NO; sometimes "the right fit" & "overall happiness" is everything...

AsylumGuido 06-21-2017 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 753178)
Don't believe NFLPA rules allow other agents to contact players while in an existing agreement with an agent...

But I do believe a player may know what's best overall for him and it may be 8.5% less in a total deal, but factoring taxes, local name status and recognition, proximity to family, family being happy in an area, other opportunities, you're definitely right that all that is a factor...

Lance Moore just disappeared once he left NO; sometimes "the right fit" & "overall happiness" is everything...
Kirwan said it happens all the time. He said it is very common. It might not be "allowed under the rules" but players change agents much more often than we would expect, according to Kirwan. I would think that as long as the player says it was he who originated the contact there isn't much the NFLPA can do about it.

jeanpierre 06-21-2017 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753179)
Kirwan said it happens all the time. He said it is very common. It might not be "allowed under the rules" but players change agents much more often than we would expect, according to Kirwan. I would think that as long as the player says it was he who originated the contact there isn't much the NFLPA can do about it.
Oh, no question they change agents; it's just that agents are not supposed to initiate solicitation, nor courting of contracted players...

But Snead is having his Tidwell moment and have Rosenhaus should give him some comfort, for what that's worth...

AsylumGuido 06-21-2017 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 753200)
Oh, no question they change agents; it's just that agents are not supposed to initiate solicitation, nor courting of contracted players...

But Snead is having his Tidwell moment and have Rosenhaus should give him some comfort, for what that's worth...
I agree they're not "supposed to", but Kirwan said they actually do (my addition here) and as long as the players claim to have made first contact nothing can be done about it. Kirwan never said that part, but Occam's Razor. That's what I love about listening to Pat Kirwan. He holds nothing back and tells all about what happens behind the scenes in front office dealings. Very interesting man.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2017 04:33 PM
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Oh, and Rosenhaus has a reputation for getting deals done.

K Major 06-21-2017 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753206)
Oh, and Rosenhaus has a reputation for getting his clients paid.
FIFY.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2017 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 753208)
FIFY.
Same thing.

jeanpierre 06-22-2017 02:09 PM
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I usually don't care for Fansided, but this wasn't too bad; especially the section on Marques Colston...

FS: The Top 5 Wide Receivers in New Orleans Saints history

jeanpierre 06-22-2017 11:28 PM
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A rare peek inside the Saints weight room, especially surprising Snead plugging a product there...

jeanpierre 06-23-2017 09:01 AM
Re: Willie Snead optimistic and hopeful that he signs long-term deal with Saints before season
 
A little perspective on Snead and his performance, production...


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