Playoffs or bust?

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2017, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No one on this board does any of these things. We simply state the true prospects of the team taking into account their recent failure. Ignoring failures isn't positive, it is delusional. We are 7-9 3 straight years. That is who we are until we aren't.

No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. So you agree that looking at past failures, something that you are obsessed with, has no impact on the future success of our team?

You have the total right to look at the world in any manner you choose. You can believe the current roster is 7-9. Fine. Pessimistic and negative.

Myself, I look at the current roster as 0-0 at this point and with all sorts of potential. Optimistic and positive.

I am also the realist between us. I know that nothing I can do or say can affect the success of the team at all as you have been implying all along.

And disregarding failures by a professional football team in the past is what a fan should do. Why waste energy and time worrying about things that you cannot affect. It is best to look ahead and hope for the best.

Tell me, exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

spkb25 · 06-20-2017, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. [/B]

Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life.

Grow up Peter Pan

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2017, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life.

Grow up Peter Pan

I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish. The statement you made above about what the Saints should do is the only one of which I could agree. And they have obviously done just that with the personnel changes they have made over the past two years.

Yes, those things that are seen from the outside as negative matters can be discussed, but you go far beyond that realm. You obsess over them and constantly bring them up again and again and again. Fine we have all heard your tired old story so many times before. Time to move on from the past. There is nothing any of us can do to change it and there is nothing any of us can do to change the future of the success of the team. You kept saying that we have to study the failure of the past so we can make the future better. That is fairy tale land there, buddy, and you finally realized it. You have changed your tune. Fine. It has been discussed by you ad nauseam.

But, back to the bold question which you ignored ...

Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

spkb25 · 06-20-2017, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. [/B]

No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Are you for real? My cancer was never "healed". It was successfully removed via surgery (along with a section of my lovely colon). Show me exactly "in my own words" where I have an inability to deal with reality. You are so full of crap. You get trapped into a corner by straight forward logic and then you turn to making up falsities.

Now, once again ...

Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

|Mitch| · 06-20-2017, 05:55 PM

Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2017, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow

Not an argument. Just a debate. How it is addressed can either strengthen or weaken your position.

spkb25 · 06-20-2017, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow

I am not using his cancer, I am using what he said about his attitude toward his cancer. Hard for you to make connections I see. Not surprising really, you were one of the people to disappear during the losing last season.

The Dude · 06-21-2017, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.

I totally agree that having a positive outlook in your own life can change how your life turns out drastically. I do believe the will to survive and positive determination can cure disease.
I believe in your own business envisioning success leads to success. Positive thinking DOES lead to positive results in ones own life along with learning from and changing the negative aspect of your past and present.

That is personal life, not football. You can't just will a team to win which he seems to think he can. I think he has a problem separating life and sports.

It's a football team whose job is to win Super Bowls. Nothing wrong with us as fans discussing what we think should happen or what we would do if we COULD do something about it. I'm going to stop because we clearly aren't dealing with a rational person.
He seems like a good person, a caring person, and probably someone whose positivity would rub off on you when it comes to aspects of your personal life, but when it comes to the Saints he goes into lala land.

Even worse he expects everyone else to join him.

foreverfan · 06-23-2017, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish.

Negatives? Childish? Grown up?
Well at least my stuff works.

Nothing to see here... Just keep on reading... Move along folks...

06-20-2017, 03:02 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 No one on this board does any of these things. We simply state the true prospects of the team taking into account their recent failure. Ignoring failures isn't positive, it is delusional. We are 7-9 3 straight years. That is who we are until we aren't. No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. So you agree that looking at past failures, something that you are obsessed with, has no impact on the future success of our team? You have the total right to look at the world in any manner you choose. You can believe the current roster is 7-9. Fine. Pessimistic and negative. Myself, I look at the current roster as 0-0 at this point and with all sorts of potential. Optimistic and positive. I am also the realist between us. I know that nothing I can do or say can affect the success of the team at all as you have been implying all along. And disregarding failures by a professional football team in the past is what a fan should do. Why waste energy and time worrying about things that you cannot affect. It is best to look ahead and hope for the best. Tell me, exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

06-20-2017, 03:20 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. [/B] Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life. Grow up Peter Pan

06-20-2017, 03:56 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life. Grow up Peter Pan I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish. The statement you made above about what the Saints should do is the only one of which I could agree. And they have obviously done just that with the personnel changes they have made over the past two years. Yes, those things that are seen from the outside as negative matters can be discussed, but you go far beyond that realm. You obsess over them and constantly bring them up again and again and again. Fine we have all heard your tired old story so many times before. Time to move on from the past. There is nothing any of us can do to change it and there is nothing any of us can do to change the future of the success of the team. You kept saying that we have to study the failure of the past so we can make the future better. That is fairy tale land there, buddy, and you finally realized it. You have changed your tune. Fine. It has been discussed by you ad nauseam. But, back to the bold question which you ignored ... Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

06-20-2017, 04:47 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. [/B] No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.

06-20-2017, 05:12 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Are you for real? My cancer was never "healed". It was successfully removed via surgery (along with a section of my lovely colon). Show me exactly "in my own words" where I have an inability to deal with reality. You are so full of crap. You get trapped into a corner by straight forward logic and then you turn to making up falsities. Now, once again ... Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

06-20-2017, 05:55 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Playoffs or bust? Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow CharityMike likes this.

06-20-2017, 06:05 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow Not an argument. Just a debate. How it is addressed can either strengthen or weaken your position.

06-20-2017, 06:07 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Using someones condition(cancer) in an argument is a sure low-blow I am not using his cancer, I am using what he said about his attitude toward his cancer. Hard for you to make connections I see. Not surprising really, you were one of the people to disappear during the losing last season.

06-21-2017, 03:40 PM	#9
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal. I totally agree that having a positive outlook in your own life can change how your life turns out drastically. I do believe the will to survive and positive determination can cure disease. I believe in your own business envisioning success leads to success. Positive thinking DOES lead to positive results in ones own life along with learning from and changing the negative aspect of your past and present. That is personal life, not football. You can't just will a team to win which he seems to think he can. I think he has a problem separating life and sports. It's a football team whose job is to win Super Bowls. Nothing wrong with us as fans discussing what we think should happen or what we would do if we COULD do something about it. I'm going to stop because we clearly aren't dealing with a rational person. He seems like a good person, a caring person, and probably someone whose positivity would rub off on you when it comes to aspects of your personal life, but when it comes to the Saints he goes into lala land. Even worse he expects everyone else to join him. spkb25 likes this.
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	"Where life had no value, death, sometimes, had its price. That is why the bounty killers appeared."

06-23-2017, 09:54 AM	#10
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish. Negatives? Childish? Grown up? Well at least my stuff works. Nothing to see here... Just keep on reading... Move along folks... skymike likes this.
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