Nick Fairley Placed on NFI

AsylumGuido · 06-26-2017, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I voted to let him walk as a FA. Not that I dislike him but would liked to have a better player able to be more effective while at nose. I hope he has a good life outside of football.

I hope he gets this resolved and returns to the Saints to finish out his contract.

Beastmode · 06-27-2017, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

NF was our second best pass rusher, possibly top 15 in the NFL with interior pressure & had 3 good years as a DT just hitting his prime.

He was far from a "journeyman".

3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect:

March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable.

AsylumGuido · 06-27-2017, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect:

March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable.

Highly improbable? Based upon what? Every new contract is preceded by a physical exam. What was found at OTA's in an exam three months later would have been found during the exam in March if it was present.

Papa Voodoo · 06-27-2017, 11:16 AM

Health first, good decision by all. I hope there is a procedure that can help him live a long, healthy life with less worry. No reason to risk it. My football fan brain does lament not having both he and Junior (with his head on straight) out there with Rankins and Jordan.

halloween 65 · 06-27-2017, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

injury settlement time

Based on camp injury and the worries as players injuries started to rear it's ugly head

2018 nfl draft
R1 - Vita Vea DT Washington 6041 332 5.19 #50 rJr
R3 - Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas 6052 319 5.14 #72 Sr

Top FA signing - not sold we have the starter yet
Stephon Tuitt DE Steelers

Now you have a solid DE rotation.

I would have took Vea this year if he left college. I also like the Arkansas guy. Both should be solid blue collar picks. Don't know if the Steelers let go of Tuitt.

spkb25 · 06-27-2017, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Just further evidence that the front office and Sean need to go. How many times are they gonna make same mistake.

Here we go with all the excuses to sheild them both from blame from the blind people who dont or WON'T see it. Ready 3 2 1.

Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are.

AsylumGuido · 06-27-2017, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are.

Exactly who and where did anyone say the Saints would be better without Fairley? I have read every post concerning Fairley and I haven't seen anyone imply that. It was hinted at concerning Armstead's absence, though.

Thirty3 · 06-27-2017, 01:08 PM

Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies.

Beastmode · 06-27-2017, 01:31 PM

I think they signed him to take care of him knowing his condition was not good. His condition is progressive from my understanding. Improbable it went from fine to horrible that fast.

AsylumGuido · 06-27-2017, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies.

I know they have contingencies built into Manti Te'o's contract with him coming off his injury. But, guarantees in contracts are guarantees. Now, they could negotiate a reduction of guarantees such as signing bonuses. If they want to be hardasses they can even try to prove the players failed to report conditions they knew about that were unknown to the team. That is standard verbiage in the NFL player contract.

06-26-2017, 11:45 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by halloween 65 I voted to let him walk as a FA. Not that I dislike him but would liked to have a better player able to be more effective while at nose. I hope he has a good life outside of football. I hope he gets this resolved and returns to the Saints to finish out his contract.

06-27-2017, 07:23 AM	#42
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by K Major NF was our second best pass rusher, possibly top 15 in the NFL with interior pressure & had 3 good years as a DT just hitting his prime. He was far from a "journeyman". 3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect: March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable.
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06-27-2017, 08:06 AM	#43
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by Beastmode 3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect: March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable. Highly improbable? Based upon what? Every new contract is preceded by a physical exam. What was found at OTA's in an exam three months later would have been found during the exam in March if it was present. Beastmode likes this.

06-27-2017, 11:16 AM	#44
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Health first, good decision by all. I hope there is a procedure that can help him live a long, healthy life with less worry. No reason to risk it. My football fan brain does lament not having both he and Junior (with his head on straight) out there with Rankins and Jordan.

06-27-2017, 12:23 PM	#45
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by hagan714 injury settlement time Based on camp injury and the worries as players injuries started to rear it's ugly head 2018 nfl draft R1 - Vita Vea DT Washington 6041 332 5.19 #50 rJr R3 - Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas 6052 319 5.14 #72 Sr Top FA signing - not sold we have the starter yet Stephon Tuitt DE Steelers Now you have a solid DE rotation. I would have took Vea this year if he left college. I also like the Arkansas guy. Both should be solid blue collar picks. Don't know if the Steelers let go of Tuitt.

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06-27-2017, 12:54 PM	#46
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by saintshrimp Just further evidence that the front office and Sean need to go. How many times are they gonna make same mistake. Here we go with all the excuses to sheild them both from blame from the blind people who dont or WON'T see it. Ready 3 2 1. Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are.

06-27-2017, 01:01 PM	#47
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by spkb25 Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are. Exactly who and where did anyone say the Saints would be better without Fairley? I have read every post concerning Fairley and I haven't seen anyone imply that. It was hinted at concerning Armstead's absence, though.

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Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies.
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06-27-2017, 01:31 PM	#49
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI I think they signed him to take care of him knowing his condition was not good. His condition is progressive from my understanding. Improbable it went from fine to horrible that fast.
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06-27-2017, 01:39 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI Originally Posted by Thirty3 Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies. I know they have contingencies built into Manti Te'o's contract with him coming off his injury. But, guarantees in contracts are guarantees. Now, they could negotiate a reduction of guarantees such as signing bonuses. If they want to be hardasses they can even try to prove the players failed to report conditions they knew about that were unknown to the team. That is standard verbiage in the NFL player contract.

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