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hagan714 07-15-2017 06:15 AM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 754598)
- Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense,

editorial correction

Bum's (and Mora's) Dome Patrol Defense

Fans have plenty of reasons to knock Bum but the Dome Patrol was Bums gift to the saints fans and Jim Mora. Mora had to only finish off the foundation Bum Built

Bum will never get the credit because of the Archie trade and turning the Saints into an Oilers retirement home on offense. Trading away Archie and bring in Kenny was a huge mistake. Both were washed up sure but publically it was suicide for Bum to do. The FO is not the one to blame here, not completely. 91% a Bum move.

But credit goes more to Bum for building that defense.

foreverfan 07-15-2017 09:38 AM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 755025)
Gotta disagree with y'all about matching "Mora's Defense" to Payton's Offense...

First Point: There are two names that really should be getting the credit for that defense -

Jim Finks and Steve Sidwell, not Mora

Second Point: Mora and Payton would have killed each other in the locker room fighting over strategy...

Mora didn't trust throwing the ball alot, he prefered the Ground Chuck approach, eating clock...

Payton believes in a full, no-holds-barred, aerial assault as if he were playing in Arena Football...

Third Point: While there definitely would have been a pass rush, there's no way of knowing if the Saints secondary, particularly the cornerbacks could compete in today's no touch, no grab NFL rules; Toi Cook was often the weak link on that defense, particularly at the end of games (a familiar theme these past seasons since the Superbowl win)...

Final Thought: There's one disturbing parallel though - as both coaches tenures became longer and they acquired more personnel authority, with fewer checks and balances, they made horrible personnel moves...

Two bright spots for Payton -

First, hiring Jeff Ireland to come in and get the Personnel Dept up to par with the offfensive success and though, slowly, painfully, give back some of that authority (trust) in personnel moves...

Second, hiring Mike Nolan and Ryan Nielsen to support Dennis Allen looks to be a brilliant, fortunate move and may very well boost the back half of Payton's run as Saints Head Coach...


BRILLIANT POST BUT....

STFU... It was my dream. :lolup:
Besides... Everyone already knew that... And WTF... you for got Bum? :shock:

Also... it will never happen and it ain't never going to happen! You might as well throw that in there. :D :rolleyes:

Now we need some off season thread repair... and it's all your fault. :love:

How did the ref get in the pic?

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ip5W6qL4MSzIY/giphy.gif

Seer1 07-15-2017 10:48 AM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Kate Upton? That's all you got?

neugey 07-15-2017 02:05 PM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 755044)

Hey someone's gotta ref this swimsuit contest in case a catfight breaks out or turns an ankle. Safety first!

jeanpierre 07-15-2017 08:36 PM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 755044)

BRILLIANT POST BUT....

STFU... It was my dream. :lolup:
Besides... Everyone already knew that... And WTF... you for got Bum? :shock:

Also... it will never happen and it ain't never going to happen! You might as well throw that in there. :D :rolleyes:

Now we need some off season thread repair... and it's all your fault. :love:

How did the ref get in the pic?

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ip5W6qL4MSzIY/giphy.gif

;)

Seer1 07-16-2017 11:28 AM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 755048)
Hey someone's gotta ref this swimsuit contest in case a catfight breaks out or turns an ankle. Safety first!

But, what is doing back there?......... Oh, just typical ref stuff. Never mind.

vpheughan 07-17-2017 10:18 AM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
I listened to an interview he did with a local sports talk show here in Indy. Didn't sound bitter and he actually admitted he'd like to have some of those post game tirades back as he didn't think before he spoke.

Papa Voodoo 07-17-2017 02:11 PM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Mel Gray and/or the Beerman too.

Rugby Saint II 07-17-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 755176)
Mel Gray and/or the Beerman too.

What are you talking about???? You didn't even mention boobs or post a stupid cat picture.

Never mind..............you were talking about football. My bad.......:dunce:

vpheughan 07-17-2017 07:00 PM

Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter
 
B&G cartoon "Boob Cat" with special guest "Banana Swallows" In this weeks episode Boob Cat tells Banana what she positively should have done while wondering if she will "be hurting tomorrow"


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