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MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 It says the team doctor "noticed" the irregularity after the physical, meaning it could have been there all along and the team doctor should have noticed it straight away. Just seems awful coincidental for a guy ...

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Old 07-17-2017, 02:44 PM   #1
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
It says the team doctor "noticed" the irregularity after the physical, meaning it could have been there all along and the team doctor should have noticed it straight away.

Just seems awful coincidental for a guy with a pretty bad track record when it comes to signing guys to huge contracts.
It was said some time back that it was found during the physicals taken at the beginning of OTA's, months AFTER the March physical before his contract signing. Once again, arrhythmia is easy to detect. There is no way it could be missed in March if it was there. Arrhythmia can also occur at any time, even in a perfectly healthy heart.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:02 PM   #2
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
It says the team doctor "noticed" the irregularity after the physical, meaning it could have been there all along and the team doctor should have noticed it straight away.

Just seems awful coincidental for a guy with a pretty bad track record when it comes to signing guys to huge contracts.
Of course and it is not to say it was a fluke, but I think you have to give it a longer look and really wonder about this front office and their due diligence. I am just not an apologist simply because I am a Saints fan.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:21 PM   #3
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Guido, no offense but this article doesn't verify anything other than the fact that the diagnosis sucks for both sides. No where does it say that there was a "new" condition that recently developed. So, I stick with my original question which is how did we not notice this before the contract.
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

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Guido, no offense but this article doesn't verify anything other than the fact that the diagnosis sucks for both sides. No where does it say that there was a "new" condition that recently developed. So, I stick with my original question which is how did we not notice this before the contract.
Loomis confirmed that a physical was done in March before the new deal was signed. If a new condition was present it would have been found, especially if it was arrhythmia as suspected. It would have shown up in several commonly applied tests. He also said that a team doctor noticed it later. That later was at the beginning of the OTA's when all players go through a physical. That was reported several times when the news first broke.

By all indicators it is arrhythmia which can occur at any time without any prior warning. Thus the bad timing to which Loomis refers. If the arrhythmia had began a few months earlier they could have avoided the situation. It wasn't an additional ECG, EKG, Holter Monitor or a stress test that was required, it would have had to have been a crystal ball. As far as I know no doctor has one of those.

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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Our team doctors must have gotten their medical degree in Mexico. Ochsner was an account of mine when I sold medical equipment. The place was nasty......... I wouldn't send my dog there.

It's obvious to the uneducated eye that the front office and our medical staff don't evaluate injuries very well. Our track record on injured athletes is abysmal at best.

Like Joe Vitt and company I believe that it's time to move on and get a fresh pertspective.
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

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Our team doctors must have gotten their medical degree in Mexico. Ochsner was an account of mine when I sold medical equipment. The place was nasty......... I wouldn't send my dog there.

It's obvious to the uneducated eye that the front office and our medical staff don't evaluate injuries very well. Our track record on injured athletes is abysmal at best.

Like Joe Vitt and company I believe that it's time to move on and get a fresh pertspective.
It wasn't in Mexico, they got their degrees out of a Cracker Jack box
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Can't we just blame this on Obamacare already?

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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

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Can't we just blame this on Obamacare already?

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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

This was found during the draft process. He got one of those he is ok BUT down the road .... conclusion. well we are down that road now.
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Re: MIckey Loomis on Nick Fairley's condition: 'The time of the discovery wasn't great for us nor for him'

Not to sound cold and callous, but does anyone know how Nick's condition will impact the current cap? IIRC the Saints were inside the top 3 in all of the NFL as it relates to "Dead Money".
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