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K Major 07-21-2017 04:35 PM

Big-name linebackers on bubble in Saints' 53-man roster projection
 
While I agree with Triplett's prediction at cornerback, I have no earthly idea how it will materialize at LINEBACKER.

Big-name linebackers on bubble in Saints' 53-man roster projection - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN

Beastmode 07-21-2017 04:48 PM

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Too many unknowns at LB. I guess they could gel at some point but early on likely gonna be a rough ride.

ChrisXVI 07-21-2017 06:21 PM

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Man, I hope I'm wrong about AJ Klein because I just don't see it. I'm watching the Panthers games from last season when he was filling in for Kuechly and it's pretty underwhelming.

|Mitch| 07-21-2017 07:25 PM

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K Major 07-21-2017 07:26 PM

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I hope I'm wrong about AJ as well ... what I do notice from these clips is that AJ is a good tackler. Definitely knows how to wrap up at the point of attack.


The Dude 07-21-2017 08:22 PM

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I think Anthony is going to be a surprise. Seems everyone has written him off already and put him in the back of their minds. He did pretty well his first year being thrown in the middle. Fresh year and a fresh start with new coaches could be just what he needs.
I'm not completely sold on the not understanding the system thing. I may be wrong but it seems like we didn't really see anything good or bad in camp. Just the "having trouble with the system" thing. I don't remember him being on the practice field much.

Seer1 07-21-2017 09:08 PM

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Well, some of these guys gotta go. Triplett's choices are as good as anyone's at the moment.

hagan714 07-21-2017 09:14 PM

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for the money we are paying and the skill set he has, AJ should be the impact bargain player of the year. I thank Carolina for coaching up AJ for us.

Craig Robertson should handle the weak side with ease. At the least a key package player on third downs.

The rest?

Stephone Anthony? hopes wings and a prayer.

ChrisXVI 07-21-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 755603)
for the money we are paying and the skill set he has, AJ should be the impact bargain player of the year. I thank Carolina for coaching up AJ for us.

Craig Robertson should handle the weak side with ease. At the least a key package player on third downs.

The rest?

Stephone Anthony? hopes wings and a prayer.

I think Stephone Anthony is just about on par with AJ Klein. I haven't seen Klein do anything in his games last season that Anthony didn't do his rookie year. Now, as far as the intangibles go... I'm not in the meeting rooms or on the field at practice so I don't know if Klein excels mentally, but I don't think the gap is that big at all.

jnormand 07-21-2017 11:23 PM

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Idk. I just don't know why they would go out and get Klein if they had any confidence in Anthony. I'm not saying the kid doesn't have the ability to be a starter, I'm just wondering why they would do that if they knew Anthony was capable of doing a quality job. If he's good enough, why sign a MLB to a over average contract to start?

I hope the kid can put it all together, but it seems like he either isn't competent enough to make the adjustments or he's in the dog house.

Maybe he'll surprise. Maybe he gets cut. I don't give a **** what LBs are on the field. I just want a beast LB or two again. I miss those days.

ChrisXVI 07-22-2017 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 755616)
Idk. I just don't know why they would go out and get Klein if they had any confidence in Anthony. I'm not saying the kid doesn't have the ability to be a starter, I'm just wondering why they would do that if they knew Anthony was capable of doing a quality job. If he's good enough, why sign a MLB to a over average contract to start?

I hope the kid can put it all together, but it seems like he either isn't competent enough to make the adjustments or he's in the dog house.

Maybe he'll surprise. Maybe he gets cut. I don't give a **** what LBs are on the field. I just want a beast LB or two again. I miss those days.

Yeah I mean they definitely brought in Klein to be the Mike, I just don't understand what's going on because I'm not in the room with them. It's pretty well known that Rob Ryan's defensive players are confused and don't know what to do and that was put on Anthony as a rookie. I don't know what led to coach giving up on him so quick.

neugey 07-22-2017 06:58 AM

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I'm wondering if Te'o could emerge. Remember he's started over 30 games for the Chargers.

ChrisXVI 07-22-2017 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 755619)
I'm wondering if Te'o could emerge. Remember he's started over 30 games for the Chargers.

I think Te'o could be a pretty good option on the strong side if Klein is the Mike. I believe Te'o played the Sam at Notre Dame before they switched to a 3-4.

K Major 07-22-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 755619)
I'm wondering if Te'o could emerge. Remember he's started over 30 games for the Chargers.

Correct & this is very possible under Nolan.

Teo was a 2nd rounder who started for 3 years in SD as MIKE. IMO from an ascending player standpoint Klein has the advantage as he appears to be set for a breakout year in NO but as a pure MLB standpoint, Teo' if healthy, when healthy is the better MIKE.

halloween 65 07-22-2017 08:54 AM

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I'm hoping Klein, Anthony and Ellerbe are our starters.

Rell&Gold 07-22-2017 09:37 AM

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James Lauranitis was signed last year too, look how long that lasted. Stephpne was better than that...so we have to wait n see

K Major 07-22-2017 11:13 AM

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If a few more guys like this can step up (Craig Robertson) in 2017 .. we will be a much better defensive ball club.

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The Dude 07-22-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 755619)
I'm wondering if Te'o could emerge. Remember he's started over 30 games for the Chargers.

Wasn't Te'o supposed to be a huge thing coming into the league? Did he just never develop or was it an injury thing? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?

Seer1 07-22-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 755630)
Wasn't Te'o supposed to be a huge thing coming into the league? Did he just never develop or was it an injury thing? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?

Yeah. He was showing promise, but he seems to screw up his foot or ankle every year. He was even selected team captain last year and then messed up his achilles about five minutes later. He'll be great for us if he can stay on the field.

The Dude 07-22-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 755639)
Yeah. He was showing promise, but he seems to screw up his foot or ankle every year. He was even selected team captain last year and then messed up his achilles about five minutes later. He'll be great for us if he can stay on the field.

That's just Payton's way of playing the high risk high reward card. He gambles on injury prone players that could be stars hoping to hit now in then. People wonder why we have so many injuries. You have your CJ Spillers and Byrds but we also hit on some like Breaux. Odds are these gambles have got to start paying off sooner or later.
Would be cool if that was the case with Te'O. If a couple other players like Ellerbie are able to finally stay on the field our defense could be fun to watch again.

Utah_Saint 07-22-2017 02:01 PM

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Wouldn't the Saints have to get a "Big-name" linebacker before they could put one on the bubble?

Seer1 07-22-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 755645)
Wouldn't the Saints have to get a "Big-name" linebacker before they could put one on the bubble?

Hahaha!

vpheughan 07-22-2017 08:00 PM

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BIGHILL is a BIG NAME it says so right there in BIGhill!

jeanpierre 07-22-2017 08:29 PM

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Nate Stupar was pretty impressive as well and is a guy who hardly ever gets mentioned for being able to cover, hit and stick...

Point being, in today's NFL economics, I wouldn't be surprised if Ellerbe goes on the move if he starts complaining about sand in his vajajay...

Nolan/Anthony is most overlooked, disregarded story right now - stay tuned nay-sayers, you're about to be reminded of what coaching can do...

Several NFL scouts have disclosed that if Anzalone had stayed healthy in Gainesville, he'd been a first round pick; fingers crossed...

A.J. Klein will eat with his new start, only it will be a Sam linebacker and we won't see as much three-safety now that we have depth at LBer...

Amazingly we still have uber utility LBer Craig Robertson with the hardest job being convincing him to stay in that role and take the kicking coverage to a new level...

Manti Teo was brought in to show the other LB kids how Mike Nolan likes to get things done; we done this with DBs in the past as well...

ChrisXVI 07-22-2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 755668)
Nate Stupar was pretty impressive as well and is a guy who hardly ever gets mentioned for being able to cover, hit and stick...

Point being, in today's NFL economics, I wouldn't be surprised if Ellerbe goes on the move if he starts complaining about sand in his vajajay...

Nolan/Anthony is most overlooked, disregarded story right now - stay tuned nay-sayers, you're about to be reminded of what coaching can do...

Several NFL scouts have disclosed that if Anzalone had stayed healthy in Gainesville, he'd been a first round pick; fingers crossed...

A.J. Klein will eat with his new start, only it will be a Sam linebacker and we won't see as much three-safety now that we have depth at LBer...

Amazingly we still have uber utility LBer Craig Robertson with the hardest job being convincing him to stay in that role and take the kicking coverage to a new level...

Manti Teo was brought in to show the other LB kids how Mike Nolan likes to get things done; we done this with DBs in the past as well...

This 100%... Well said JP!

K Major 07-22-2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 755668)

Point being, in today's NFL economics, I wouldn't be surprised if Ellerbe goes on the move if he starts complaining about sand in his vajajay...

It's hard for me to disagree here. With the current roster of LB's, I don't see Ellerbe sitting on the stationary bike for half of the season. He must come into TC and make an impression on the field or run the risk of getting cut + he is getting long in the tooth.

hagan714 07-22-2017 09:04 PM

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In a perfect world

Nate Stupar and Craig Robertson would be the pass down package of LBs.

Still think Craig Robertson will be our starting WLB.

jnormand 07-22-2017 10:47 PM

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I think Stupe is badass! Very underrated! The kid can play.

jeanpierre 07-23-2017 08:56 AM

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K Major 07-23-2017 09:12 AM

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Was never a fan of the James L signing last season & I hope AJ Klein proves me wrong this year.

jeanpierre 07-23-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 755701)
Was never a fan of the James L signing last season & I hope AJ Klein proves me wrong this year.

Klein was a superb SAM LBer at Carolina and showed versatility as a MIKE, so the more the merrier and the more diverse in skills, the better...

Seer1 07-23-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 755668)

Point being, in today's NFL economics, I wouldn't be surprised if Ellerbe goes on the move if he starts complaining about sand in his cast...

FIFY

jnormand 07-23-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 755718)
FIFY

HA!!

Beastmode 07-23-2017 04:59 PM

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Bold print will not be read by me. I dealt with it for a while but it is beyond annoying and asinine.

With that being said, we have some real roll the dice LBs. Likely will not work out, this is not 50/50 stuff either. More like a 30% it works out. Just being honest here. One is injury prone. Another never played in the NFL. Another likely hit the ceiling. I hope for the best though but certainly do not have a warm fuzzy feeling about it.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 755736)
Bold print will not be read by me. I dealt with it for a while but it is beyond annoying and asinine.

With that being said, we have some real roll the dice LBs. Likely will not work out, this is not 50/50 stuff either. More like a 30% it works out. Just being honest here. One is injury prone. Another never played in the NFL. Another likely hit the ceiling. I hope for the best though but certainly do not have a warm fuzzy feeling about it.

:confused:

Not sure what you are talking about when you refer to "bold print"? I say if you refuse to read you refuse to listen. If you refuse to listen you refuse to learn. If you refuse to learn you refuse to grow. If you refuse to grow you refuse to live. If you refuse to live you die.

Always read.

Beastmode 07-23-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755738)
:confused:

Not sure what you are talking about when you refer to "bold print"? I say if you refuse to read you refuse to listen. If you refuse to listen you refuse to learn. If you refuse to learn you refuse to grow. If you refuse to grow you refuse to live. If you refuse to live you die.

Always read.

We are all going to die. I won't read bold print on the otherside either.

Seer1 07-24-2017 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 755736)
Bold print will not be read by me. I dealt with it for a while but it is beyond annoying and asinine.

With that being said, we have some real roll the dice LBs. Likely will not work out, this is not 50/50 stuff either. More like a 30% it works out. Just being honest here. One is injury prone. Another never played in the NFL. Another likely hit the ceiling. I hope for the best though but certainly do not have a warm fuzzy feeling about it.

I sometimes walk down the street and think things like, "What stupid hat. Why would someone put a thing like that on their head?" Then I need to remind myself that hey, it's not on my head. And then I rejoice just a little....

AsylumGuido 07-24-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 755745)
We are all going to die. I won't read bold print on the otherside either.

You may end up where there is ONLY bold print. ;)

Beastmode 07-24-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755758)
You may end up where there is ONLY bold print. ;)

I'm going to heaven. What you are talking about is where you are going lol!

AsylumGuido 07-24-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 755759)
I'm going to heaven. What you are talking about is where you are going lol!

"Positive" about my destination, as well. ;-)


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